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<br>[14:07] Wordfromthe Wise: any topics for today besides my praises for the gòód work of the gridGods ..
<br>[14:07] Mystic Moonlight: hey bob
<br>[14:07] dan banner: nothing in particular word
<br>[14:07] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hi
<br>[14:07] Mystic Moonlight: hey ya'll
<br>[14:07] Greybeard Thinker: OK, who broke mesh in the code?
<br>[14:07] Richardus Raymaker: hi mystic
<br>[14:07] Baewyn Celara: Eh?
<br>[14:07] Baewyn Celara hasn't looked at something mesh in a while
<br>[14:08] dan banner: what mantis is that in grey?
<br>[14:08] Mystic Moonlight: hey rich
<br>[14:08] Greybeard Thinker: second time I've seen crazy stuff with mesh clothes using Firestorm, I haven't updated or changed the viewer, so it has to be opensim
<br>[14:08] Greybeard Thinker: it's very recent, first noticed it last night at Lbsa
<br>[14:08] Richardus Raymaker: mesh broken
<br>[14:08] Shez Oyen: Harper is working great :o
<br>[14:08] Jalen Optera: I havent seen anything weird in harper, havent used regular fs here in a while though
<br>[14:08] Arielle Popstar: horizontal bands?>
<br>[14:09] Wordfromthe Wise is wearing a mesh bird on my head .. it does not look broken ?
<br>[14:09] dan banner: strange i havent noticed any problems with mesh
<br>[14:09] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hiya Arielle
<br>[14:09] Greybeard Thinker: mesh clothes are making Av's invisible as if the in Impy or other non mesh viewer
<br>[14:09] Nocte Bella: as it in not showing up or when it does its a blob Mr Grey ?
<br>[14:09] Jalen Optera: nice blue bird http://i.imgur.com/zklFI.jpg
<br>[14:09] Baewyn Celara: Yup rezzed fine for Singularity Word
<br>[14:09] Arielle Popstar: not just mesh Grey\
<br>[14:09] Wordfromthe Wise: yes my favorite brand of viewer ...
<br>[14:09] Greybeard Thinker: as in the bits are there but the Av itself is invisible, as Ari is right now to me
<br>[14:09] Baewyn Celara: I'll try again in FS when I'm not on Wright aka Lagtastica
<br>[14:10] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hello Vivian
<br>[14:10] Samantha Alexander: To me Arielle is invisible apart from hair shoes and fuzzy clothing
<br>[14:10] Richardus Raymaker: Zen is good for recordings
<br>[14:10] Nocte Bella: yes im on FS now and dont see anything but hair and shoes
<br>[14:10] Greybeard Thinker: yep, that's what I see to Alex
<br>[14:10] Arielle Popstar: ]instant skin corruption when i arrived at wright\]
<br>[14:10] dan banner: arielles not rezzing
<br>[14:10] Baewyn Celara: Same for me... I'm taking that as the mesh hasn't rezzed yet.
<br>[14:10] Eryn Galen: Same, but Im on Imp, thats V1 so I cant see mes (if she is wearing that;)
<br>[14:10] Wordfromthe Wise: no i see her arms ...
<br>[14:10] Shez Oyen: Lot's of grey nekid people for me
<br>[14:10] Greybeard Thinker: noticed it last night at Lbsa Plaza too
<br>[14:10] Key Gruin: hi everyone
<br>[14:10] Greybeard Thinker: so it's a new oddity
<br>[14:10] Shez Oyen: stuff if just rezzing slow
<br>[14:10] Arielle Popstar: not wearing mesh
<br>[14:11] Baewyn Celara: aaah rezzing issues not mesh then.
<br>[14:11] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: hey key
<br>[14:11] Greybeard Thinker: hey Key
<br>[14:11] Key Gruin: sorry if my voice was one
<br>[14:11] Arielle Popstar: it is grey\]
<br>[14:11] Key Gruin: on*
<br>[14:11] Greybeard Thinker: hey Stio
<br>[14:11] stiofain nbmcmedia: hi folks
<br>[14:11] Mystic Moonlight: hey key
<br>[14:11] Eryn Galen: hey Key
<br>[14:11] David north: hey key
<br>[14:11] Baewyn Celara: Hello Stio
<br>[14:11] Shez Oyen: Key :*
<br>[14:11] Key Gruin: hi every* :D
<br>[14:11] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hey Stio
<br>[14:11] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hi Key
<br>[14:11] Richardus Raymaker: hi stio
<br>[14:12] stiofain nbmcmedia: hi all
<br>[14:12] Richardus Raymaker: hi key
<br>[14:12] Key Gruin: ok so who'd wearing mesh right now?
<br>[14:12] Jalen Optera: word has a mesh bird on his head
<br>[14:12] Vivian Klees: my hat is mesh
<br>[14:12] George Equus: Hello everybody
<br>[14:13] Silver Ladds: howdy
<br>[14:13] dan banner: hello george
<br>[14:13] Mystic Moonlight: i have no messy meshies on lol
<br>[14:13] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hello George
<br>[14:13] Silver Ladds: does anyone know where i can find a castle on here?
<br>[14:13] Baewyn Celara: I see Viv's hat fine.
<br>[14:13] Greybeard Thinker: I see Viv's hat fine, but only see Ari
<br>[14:13] Silver Ladds: or a space station... cant decide..
<br>[14:13] Greybeard Thinker: as attachments
<br>[14:13] Mystic Moonlight: hey george and silver
<br>[14:13] Shez Oyen: Yes, Viv's hat is ok.. it's just a bit of lag
<br>[14:13] Eryn Galen: Silver, there are various people doing those. Try the mall here for example.
<br>[14:13] Greybeard Thinker: hippie is still a cloud, but I blame HG for that
<br>[14:13] Key Gruin: things are still rezzing for me
<br>[14:13] Silver Ladds: okies thanks
<br>[14:14] Shez Oyen: I still see a couple of orange clouds.. several grey nekid folks.. everyone else looks "normal"
<br>[14:14] Key Gruin: probably just taking it's sweet time
<br>[14:14] dan banner: sounds about usual
<br>[14:14] Greybeard Thinker: hippie slowly rezzing now
<br>[14:14] Shelann Morane: I see everyones nikkers :)
<br>[14:14] Eryn Galen: those are also the most likely for housing, Silver
<br>[14:14] Key Gruin: lot of people lhere
<br>[14:14] Jalen Optera: I see everyone fine but Ari
<br>[14:15] Samantha Alexander: same here Jalen
<br>[14:15] Shez Oyen: hahaha I ain't wearing no knickers!
<br>[14:15] Richardus Raymaker: hi samantha
<br>[14:15] Arielle Popstar: doesnt take this long usually at the tuesday dev meetings
<br>[14:15] Eryn Galen: Samantha is still a cloud for me
<br>[14:15] Key Gruin: Arielle are you mesh clothing? or avatar
<br>[14:15] Samantha Alexander: Hi Rich
<br>[14:15] Arielle Popstar: no Key
<br>[14:15] Greybeard Thinker: yep, that's why I wondered if mesh had been borked somehow, Ari looks just like an Av wearing mesh if you are on a non mesh viewer
<br>[14:15] dan banner: anyone have anything "osgrid" related they would like to discuss?
<br>[14:15] Richardus Raymaker: sofar singularity shows mesh fine
<br>[14:15] Amy NotPond: I see all OK but Samantha...
<br>[14:15] Baewyn Celara: "Where's Neb?"?
<br>[14:16] Selea Core: i would like to know what is going on with the asset server?
<br>[14:16] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: dan can we scrub rgions again
<br>[14:16] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: regions
<br>[14:16] Richardus Raymaker: why bob, its so bad ?
<br>[14:16] Amy NotPond: Why does at least one person of my acquaintance float instead of stand when here at wright?
<br>[14:16] Greybeard Thinker: seconds Selea's request, info on the asset server would be nice
<br>[14:16] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: had a hich hiker not leave properly
<br>[14:16] Wordfromthe Wise: yes me to, as i lost a foot in the asset servers .. whats the status ; there is something going on with the asset servers ?
<br>[14:16] Selea Core: thank you Grey :)
<br>[14:17] Nocte Bella: yes, id like to know that myself
<br>[14:17] Silver Ladds: when is physics coming?
<br>[14:17] Key Gruin: the asset server is going through a fairly long disk transfer operation that can affect how efficiently it works at times
<br>[14:17] Baewyn Celara: All in favor of the asset server status update?
<br>[14:17] Nocte Bella: aye
<br>[14:17] Eryn Galen: +1
<br>[14:17] dan banner: well the asset server was offline for a few hours
<br>[14:17] Shelann Morane: add another
<br>[14:17] Eryn Galen: I heard about that
<br>[14:17] Key Gruin: yeah
<br>[14:17] Eryn Galen: what happened?
<br>[14:17] dan banner: but its back online and running again
<br>[14:17] Baewyn Celara: Ah that's news to me about the disk transfer.
<br>[14:18] Samantha Alexander: I'm getting a lot of slow request errors coming up
<br>[14:18] Arielle Popstar: why was the only notication through Littefield group?
<br>[14:18] Jalen Optera: I got the notify through meeting group
<br>[14:18] Selea Core: is that transfer the reason so many of us are having problems with our inventories?
<br>[14:18] Eryn Galen: Bae, its the conversion to the new SLRS version, and with our amount of assets, it will take a while
<br>[14:18] Key Gruin: well it was pretty early in the US morning
<br>[14:18] Greybeard Thinker: most likely Selea
<br>[14:18] Richardus Raymaker: Key, simple question. the assets still busy ?
<br>[14:18] Baewyn Celara: Oh.
<br>[14:19] Richardus Raymaker: Silver we have physics..
<br>[14:19] Baewyn Celara: I thought this was separate from the compression.
<br>[14:19] Samantha Alexander: Do we Rich ???
<br>[14:19] Key Gruin: yes the assets operation is still going on
<br>[14:19] Nocte Bella: will this correct the error messages once done
<br>[14:19] Greybeard Thinker: yep, got several physics engines to choose from, most not much better than the others though
<br>[14:19] Richardus Raymaker: Yes samantha we do, with some restrictions
<br>[14:19] Eryn Galen: do you think the amount of Slow requests that a lot of people see is because of those assets operation?
<br>[14:20] Arielle Popstar: no, just new errors :)
<br>[14:20] dan banner: i dont want to guess as to the current progress of the work on the server, but i know that dave has been offline since the storm, so things may take a little longer before its finished
<br>[14:20] Samantha Alexander: still no good for vehicles though
<br>[14:20] Greybeard Thinker: ODE never was lol
<br>[14:20] Eryn Galen: anyone heard of him though? is he ok?
<br>[14:20] Key Gruin: yeah dave coyle is handling that
<br>[14:20] Richardus Raymaker: Ok, i changed something on my server. some registery key. and i think that improved things for me. if it seems to keep working i makea post. see what others things on windows
<br>[14:20] dan banner: eryn: slow requests are not new
<br>[14:20] Greybeard Thinker: bullet is getting better but still needs more work
<br>[14:20] Baewyn Celara: Ok. I second that how are our devs?
<br>[14:20] Eryn Galen: dan, the amount is
<br>[14:21] Eryn Galen: hey Shez
<br>[14:21] Richardus Raymaker: well ODE get so its own habbits. sometimes you get errors
<br>[14:21] Shez Oyen: Eryn :)
<br>[14:21] dan banner: the logging of slow requests, etc have been added and/or changed
<br>[14:21] Richardus Raymaker: but it works perfect for me this days
<br>[14:21] Shelann Morane: is there a speaker tonight and are we waiting?
<br>[14:21] Eryn Galen: ahh, so it was always there, but not visible, dan?
<br>[14:21] dan banner: correct eryn
<br>[14:22] Eryn Galen: ok
<br>[14:22] Wordfromthe Wise: where do you post it Rich ?
<br>[14:22] Richardus Raymaker: Samantha not for verhicles ? cars work. am makeing train with ode. sofar works good to
<br>[14:22] Richardus Raymaker: hmm. good one word. think mailinglist
<br>[14:22] Selea Core: is it possible some of the problems we are having with the asset server is also linked to the latest version of OSgrid?
<br>[14:22] Samantha Alexander: My cars work briallantly as fly wear cars
<br>[14:22] Baewyn Celara: Flying things work good too... if you're an ok pilot...
<br>[14:22] Samantha Alexander: quick too
<br>[14:22] Silver Ladds: boats too?
<br>[14:22] Eryn Galen: Shelann, these meetings are normally headed by Nebadon, but they are pretty informal and we have 2 admins here ;)
<br>[14:23] Richardus Raymaker: does someone know how nebedons place is after the storm ?
<br>[14:23] Shelann Morane: OK thank you I have a topic when we are ready
<br>[14:23] dan banner: the slow logging was enabled as a way to debug things and in most situations, like on a monolithic grid, or standalone, this isnt as much an issue
<br>[14:23] Eryn Galen: Just mention it Shelann
<br>[14:23] Key Gruin: nebadon is ok after the storm, only a tree down in his yard
<br>[14:23] Greybeard Thinker: Neb is fine, all he lost in the storm was half a tree in front of his house
<br>[14:24] Eryn Galen: as you can hear, the meeting is all over the place ;)
<br>[14:24] Baewyn Celara: Damn glad it wasn't the house.
<br>[14:24] Eryn Galen: no kidding Bae
<br>[14:24] Shelann Morane: well I don't want to just inject
<br>[14:24] Jalen Optera: he was dancing in lbsa yesterday
<br>[14:24] Eryn Galen: if you wait for a break, it might not come Shelann, hehe
<br>[14:24] Greybeard Thinker: it's dave Coyle we are concerned about right now
<br>[14:24] Eryn Galen: yes, hence the question: anyone heard from Dave after the storm?
<br>[14:24] Richardus Raymaker: ohh.. missed that one. :\
<br>[14:24] Baewyn Celara: I rarely heard from him before the storm.
<br>[14:25] Arielle Popstar: so is he compression still going wihout Dave around?
<br>[14:25] Key Gruin: yeah I don't think anyone has heard from Dave yet
<br>[14:25] dan banner: i have not seen him online yet
<br>[14:25] Richardus Raymaker: question is how much power and communication damage dave have. or worse
<br>[14:25] Key Gruin: he is in NYC
<br>[14:25] Eryn Galen: I hope he can be reached soon and hes ok
<br>[14:25] Key Gruin: where there are still power outages
<br>[14:25] Eryn Galen: afaik he was right in storm central
<br>[14:25] Greybeard Thinker: well, he lives close to New York so may have some power and connection outages still
<br>[14:25] dan banner: he has not logged into skype afaik
<br>[14:25] Eryn Galen: well, we can only hope
<br>[14:25] Eryn Galen: ask Shelann, lol
<br>[14:26] Arielle Popstar: so is he compression still going wihout Dave around?
<br>[14:26] Richardus Raymaker: think many have other things in rl now
<br>[14:26] Key Gruin: we don't know Arielle
<br>[14:26] dan banner: ari: i doubt the compression of existing asset has started
<br>[14:26] Arielle Popstar: if it hasn wha is causing the issues?
<br>[14:27] Greybeard Thinker: I thought they were being compressed on the fly with the data transferre, at least that's the impression I got from neb
<br>[14:27] dan banner: there is compression of new assets
<br>[14:27] Arielle Popstar: hearing 2 different things here
<br>[14:27] dan banner: really?
<br>[14:27] Jalen Optera: difference is between existing assets and new assets, correct?
<br>[14:27] Arielle Popstar: yes
<br>[14:27] dan banner: correct
<br>[14:27] Arielle Popstar: really
<br>[14:28] Jalen Optera: new are compressed, existing, havent gotten to yet
<br>[14:28] dan banner: we are running 2 asset servers
<br>[14:28] Arielle Popstar: they are eing compressed and they arent
<br>[14:28] Eryn Galen: the way Neb told me for the Gazet was that the new assets are going directly onto the new version and getting compressed, and then there are the existing assets which are transferred and compressed
<br>[14:28] dan banner: one for new assets, that compresses
<br>[14:28] Jalen Optera: new are compreseed, existing, not compressed
<br>[14:28] Eryn Galen: I think dan was referring to the second part that hasnt started
<br>[14:28] Richardus Raymaker: thats what i know or readed to eryn
<br>[14:28] Selea Core: again i'll ask ... is it possible the problems we are having with the asset server is linked to the latest OSgrid version?
<br>[14:28] Arielle Popstar: so he worst is to come?
<br>[14:29] Greybeard Thinker: doubt it
<br>[14:29] Eryn Galen: As far as I can tell thats unlikely Selea, because not everyone who has problems has updated
<br>[14:29] Richardus Raymaker: hard to say , connections network it can all be a part of the problem
<br>[14:29] dan banner: hard to say arielle
<br>[14:29] Eryn Galen: hey mat
<br>[14:29] Greybeard Thinker: nothing regarding that has changed in the code Selea
<br>[14:29] Baewyn Celara: Best guess something that needed monitoring during the process isn't being monitored at the moment because of storm outages.
<br>[14:29] dan banner: selea: the asset server we use is not technically part of opensim
<br>[14:29] George Equus: Hi mat
<br>[14:30] Selea Core: ahh ok ... thank you
<br>[14:30] mat mahogany: hi Eryn, hi George., ty Stiofain, :)
<br>[14:30] dan banner: so i doubt its the version of opensim
<br>[14:30] Richardus Raymaker: hi mat
<br>[14:30] Greybeard Thinker: hi Mat
<br>[14:30] mat mahogany: Hi Rochard
<br>[14:30] mat mahogany: Hi Grey
<br>[14:30] mat mahogany: Richard, (sorry Typo) :)
<br>[14:30] Eryn Galen: dan, any news on the blank texture issues that some keep seeing?
<br>[14:30] Eryn Galen: (I dont, for which I am very glad)
<br>[14:30] Jalen Optera: it might be misleading because they added extra logging for slow requests, but that doesnt mean there are more of them, just that they are logged.
<br>[14:31] dan banner: eryn i know hiro re-opened the mantis on that
<br>[14:31] Eryn Galen: kk
<br>[14:31] Arielle Popstar: things are slower though
<br>[14:31] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: i see blank
<br>[14:31] dan banner: so it still exists for certain people
<br>[14:31] Eryn Galen: yeah
<br>[14:31] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: bright white
<br>[14:31] Key Gruin: the missing textures seem to be connected to hypergriding
<br>[14:31] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: yes
<br>[14:32] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: I agree
<br>[14:32] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: nope
<br>[14:32] Key Gruin: or to hypergrid configs
<br>[14:32] Eryn Galen: ahhh
<br>[14:32] Jalen Optera: I have yet to see a single white texture and I build all the time
<br>[14:32] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: i;ve been testing
<br>[14:32] Eryn Galen: same Jalen, but I dont use RLV and I dont hypergrid ;)
<br>[14:32] Nocte Bella: whats the connection to HG
<br>[14:32] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: viewer seems to be the factor
<br>[14:32] Nocte Bella: i dont HG either
<br>[14:32] Key Gruin: hippie have you tried testing with hypergrid turned off?
<br>[14:32] George Equus: Never seen blank textures but lost some that needed to be replaced, then went missing again
<br>[14:33] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: I will pass you a texture of a mans face with vines Jalen and you may see an example
<br>[14:33] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: no hg sa
<br>[14:33] George Equus: Now they stay touch wood....
<br>[14:33] Jalen Optera: ok Bob
<br>[14:33] Key Gruin: the people who are having the most trouble are in regions with hypergrid disabled
<br>[14:33] Richardus Raymaker: i found soem white textures in inventory. it never happens inworld. but i just throw them away then
<br>[14:33] Baewyn Celara: crud nothing but mdf around
<br>[14:33] mat mahogany: my picture in RL bob? :)
<br>[14:33] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: lol
<br>[14:33] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: this is from a outside source
<br>[14:33] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: imported
<br>[14:33] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: only on one data base
<br>[14:33] Eryn Galen: I dont have HG on Key, I dont see those things
<br>[14:33] dan banner: apparently visiting a region with HG disabled is what triggers the blank textures
<br>[14:34] Baewyn Celara: o.O
<br>[14:34] Eryn Galen: then why dont I see it?
<br>[14:34] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: possibly
<br>[14:34] dan banner: but i have not had any of my textures turn white
<br>[14:34] Selea Core: i don't have HG activated and I don't see blank textures
<br>[14:34] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: I have and in LBSA
<br>[14:34] Eryn Galen: you HG Bob ;_)
<br>[14:35] dan banner: this is the mantis Arielle Popstar
<br>[14:35] dan banner: oops
<br>[14:35] dan banner: http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6381
<br>[14:35] Eryn Galen: are you on the latest Version Selea?
<br>[14:35] Arielle Popstar: the textures are white for others who dont have the texture in cache already Dan
<br>[14:35] Selea Core: yep and i use Singularity
<br>[14:35] Eryn Galen: kk
<br>[14:36] dan banner: arielle: i really dont know the exact cause or conditions
<br>[14:36] Eryn Galen: no matter where I go, I have yet to see a single white texture - even with a clear cache
<br>[14:36] dan banner: i have seen hiro with a white texture
<br>[14:36] Arielle Popstar: its something with osgrid
<br>[14:36] Selea Core: the other problem is the Unknown Creator and Owner ... any news on that?
<br>[14:36] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: old issue that is
<br>[14:36] Nocte Bella: has alot of those on my own builds , would love to know why
<br>[14:36] dan banner: but i have worn clothes at a non HG region and they were not damaged
<br>[14:37] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: data base change overs
<br>[14:37] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: sec i'll log in here
<br>[14:37] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: osg
<br>[14:37] Key Gruin: the best way to find out what's causing the problem is for everyone who experiences it to be involved in testing
<br>[14:37] Richardus Raymaker: unknown creator. not seen that..
<br>[14:37] dan banner: selea: unknown user can be corrected by clearing the viewer cache
<br>[14:37] Richardus Raymaker: Selea, you run old or new opensim version ?
<br>[14:37] Nocte Bella: nope
<br>[14:37] Key Gruin: like any other issue
<br>[14:38] Selea Core: true Dan but not always ... i've seen some of my stuff on other regions with Unknow creator
<br>[14:38] Selea Core: or Unknown Owner
<br>[14:38] Arielle Popstar: seeing a lo more unknown recently and even had thenm come back up after a cache clear
<br>[14:38] dan banner: does the unknown user uuid match yours?
<br>[14:38] Nocte Bella: cache clear does not correct this unknown user
<br>[14:38] Silver Ladds: yay Cloak
<br>[14:39] Cloak Morhawk: here I am
<br>[14:39] Key Gruin: I had seen the Unknown issue a few months ago but not since then
<br>[14:39] Shelann Morane: Unknown creator is an issue wth Hypergrid they discuss it at the web sire
<br>[14:39] Selea Core: mhummm can't say i've checked that Dan ... but thank you for the suggestions
<br>[14:39] Cloak Morhawk: hmm
<br>[14:39] Shelann Morane: site*
<br>[14:39] Key Gruin: it's very difficult to pun down
<br>[14:39] dan banner: i suppose it is possible the region cache could need clearing too
<br>[14:39] Nocte Bella: pin
<br>[14:39] Cloak Morhawk: I wonder how far is scripting compatiblity?
<br>[14:39] Key Gruin: pin*
<br>[14:39] Key Gruin: lol
<br>[14:39] Nocte Bella: ;)
<br>[14:39] Baewyn Celara: Heh
<br>[14:39] Key Gruin: no pun intended
<br>[14:40] Jalen Optera: I don't believe you Key
<br>[14:40] Eryn Galen: lol Key
<br>[14:40] Baewyn Celara: Yes Key yes it was.
<br>[14:40] Nocte Bella: lol
<br>[14:40] Key Gruin: :)
<br>[14:40] Eryn Galen: hey grey hippie
<br>[14:40] Shez Oyen: grey naked hippie
<br>[14:40] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: :)i rebaked him
<br>[14:40] Richardus Raymaker: depends what script you mean clock.
<br>[14:40] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: sec
<br>[14:40] Baewyn Celara: Hi white clothed hippie
<br>[14:40] Amy NotPond: White and black hippie
<br>[14:40] Nocte Bella: you're one pun ahead of me Key
<br>[14:40] Eryn Galen: now white clothes
<br>[14:40] Baewyn Celara: lol
<br>[14:40] Baewyn Celara: Hello Amy nice to meet you.
<br>[14:41] Amy NotPond: Hi Baewyn & all.
<br>[14:41] Nocte Bella: hello
<br>[14:41] Shelann Morane: I have a mega question posed..may I ask it?
<br>[14:41] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: all white in invy that are what i wear
<br>[14:41] Nocte Bella: hey Neb
<br>[14:41] Eryn Galen: hey Boss
<br>[14:41] Richardus Raymaker: aha the king is comeing
<br>[14:41] Greybeard Thinker: hey boss
<br>[14:41] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: hey neb
<br>[14:41] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hello Nebadon
<br>[14:41] mat mahogany: lol, hi Neb,
<br>[14:41] Richardus Raymaker: hello nebadon
<br>[14:41] David north: hi neb
<br>[14:41] Key Gruin: hey nebadon
<br>[14:41] Baewyn Celara: Hello Neb
<br>[14:41] Cloak Morhawk: pphysics based scripting
<br>[14:42] Mystic Moonlight: hey amy..hey neb
<br>[14:42] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: well this is fs
<br>[14:42] Nebadon Izumi: hello
<br>[14:42] Wordfromthe Wise mumbles ... 27 avatars here .. nice
<br>[14:42] Eryn Galen: Shelann, just ask
<br>[14:42] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: brn with harper
<br>[14:42] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: brb*
<br>[14:42] mat mahogany: Hi word, sorry didnt see you there, :)
<br>[14:42] Nocte Bella: your face is the only thing with colour hippie
<br>[14:42] Richardus Raymaker: Cloak, dont use the SL ones. use nebs racer as base. and learn from wiki.
<br>[14:42] Shelann Morane: Megas not seeing Megas on adjacent servers. A person on one server makes a mega...a 
<br>person on another server makes a mega next to it but when they set them both to mega one cannot see the other.
<br>Boater and I both made a blended mega but once we set them to MEGA I can't see his side and he can't se mine.
<br>Any efforts to remedy this?
<br>[14:42] Richardus Raymaker: sofar i think works pretty same as sl. only dont do some settings
<br>[14:42] Baewyn Celara: Not true Nocte his hands and feet had color too.
<br>[14:43] Nocte Bella: i dont look at the hands and feet
<br>[14:43] George Equus: Hi Neb
<br>[14:43] Nocte Bella: its a rl thing :P
<br>[14:43] Arielle Popstar: they are in different universes Shelann
<br>[14:43] Timber Wolfe: theres a setting about visibility of adjacent sims
<br>[14:43] Baewyn Celara: lol
<br>[14:43] Vivian Klees: 2 megs can't touch each other
<br>[14:43] Eryn Galen: wb Shez
<br>[14:43] Vivian Klees: megas
<br>[14:43] Cloak Morhawk: thank you
<br>[14:43] Baewyn Celara: ok I checked since he said it was corrupted clothes.
<br>[14:43] dan banner: megaregions were not designed to have neighbors
<br>[14:43] Richardus Raymaker: hee viv
<br>[14:43] Cloak Morhawk: hmm
<br>[14:44] Arielle Popstar: unless connected to the same database u wont see them
<br>[14:44] Arielle Popstar: \
<br>[14:44] Cloak Morhawk: one more thing has anyone attempted animated meshes?
<br>[14:44] Shelann Morane: what is this setting TmberWolf?
<br>[14:44] Timber Wolfe: the setting is toggle on/off, in opensim.ini as i recall
<br>[14:44] Key Gruin: hmm have not heard about animatedmeshes myself
<br>[14:44] Baewyn Celara: I'd like to know about animated mesh outside of avatars.
<br>[14:44] Richardus Raymaker: rigged mesh ? hmm some made clothing.
<br>[14:44] Timber Wolfe: allowing or not the ability to see the adjacent sim
<br>[14:44] Arielle Popstar: 2 megas can touch but in a very specific way
<br>[14:45] Eryn Galen: hippie, your textures are ok now
<br>[14:45] Jalen Optera hands Neb a coffee
<br>[14:45] Eryn Galen: Ari, I now see your head at least, lol
<br>[14:46] Baewyn Celara: I had seen her torso for a bit, not its kind of like I turned wireframe viewing on for Ari only
<br>[14:46] Greybeard Thinker: what I can see of Ari is still all grey goo texture though
<br>[14:46] Baewyn Celara: *now it's
<br>[14:46] mat mahogany: arielle we can see right through you,
<br>[14:46] Jalen Optera: I think Ari's viewer is teasing us with slowly handing over the textures
<br>[14:46] mat mahogany: hehehe
<br>[14:47] Arielle Popstar: nod, i was fine till i got to wright
<br>[14:47] Greybeard Thinker: very same symptoms as if we are all on non mesh viewers and Ari is wearing mesh clothing, very odd
<br>[14:47] mat mahogany: grey, what if i relog in firestorm?
<br>[14:47] mat mahogany: should I see arielle then?
<br>[14:47] Selea Core: RL is kinda yelling at me to go cook diner ... take care everyone ... till next time :)
<br>[14:47] Key Gruin: sometimes sculpties look like meshes
<br>[14:48] Eryn Galen: see ya Selea
<br>[14:48] Silver Ladds: i cannot see her it is all like speckeled small diferent colored squares and many finite grey lines as if it were a wire basket for a body
<br>[14:48] Key Gruin: take care Selea
<br>[14:48] Baewyn Celara: that's not the problem people are having with Ari rezzing mat.
<br>[14:48] Greybeard Thinker: I'm on Firestorm right now, noticed the same thing with someone at Lbsa Plaza last night
<br>[14:48] Baewyn Celara: bye Selea
<br>[14:48] Selea Core: oooo nice ... OS is not letting me go ... lol
<br>[14:48] mat mahogany: ok
<br>[14:48] mat mahogany: well stay selea, :)
<br>[14:48] hippie balbozar: harper works on this grid but some things are white see none now hg is all white
<br>[14:49] Snik Snoodle: hi everyone
<br>[14:49] Baewyn Celara: brb rl is asking me to get something to drink.
<br>[14:49] Greybeard Thinker: hi Snik
<br>[14:49] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hello Snik
<br>[14:49] Eryn Galen: hi Snik
<br>[14:49] Arielle Popstar: Hi Snik
<br>[14:49] Snik Snoodle: meeting is it?
<br>[14:49] Richardus Raymaker: only weird thing i have is avatar hair. it disapear at some short distance fast
<br>[14:49] Richardus Raymaker: funny, arielle is only hair
<br>[14:49] Nocte Bella: hey Snik
<br>[14:50] Snik Snoodle: hi nocte
<br>[14:50] Arielle Popstar: beter?
<br>[14:50] mat mahogany: arielle i see a lot of you now
<br>[14:50] Key Gruin: I only see prims on Arielle
<br>[14:50] Nocte Bella: i see shoes
<br>[14:50] Greybeard Thinker: Ari finally rezzing
<br>[14:50] Timber Wolfe: im onipotent i see all
<br>[14:50] Silver Ladds: lol @ Timber
<br>[14:50] mat mahogany: oh, not now
<br>[14:50] Nocte Bella: oh yeah, what finger am i holding up
<br>[14:50] mat mahogany: just shoes
<br>[14:50] Nocte Bella: lol
<br>[14:50] Eryn Galen: GRINS Timber
<br>[14:50] Greybeard Thinker: hmmm, just floatring eyeballs now
<br>[14:51] Richardus Raymaker: textures look a bit weird corrupted ?
<br>[14:51] Snik Snoodle: i only see aries attachments
<br>[14:51] Snik Snoodle: or texture
<br>[14:51] Snik Snoodle: looks a bit corrupted
<br>[14:51] Nocte Bella: white skin and no head now
<br>[14:51] Silver Ladds: ypu tiny multi colored squares
<br>[14:51] dan banner: i see everyone fine except arielle
<br>[14:52] Greybeard Thinker: got tattoo's on Ari? it may be an alpha layer problem
<br>[14:52] mat mahogany: arielle, you been drinking out the little bottle again,
<br>[14:52] Greybeard Thinker: I see holes in Ari's grey arms
<br>[14:52] Arielle Popstar: no
<br>[14:52] Snik Snoodle: i only see cloak as grey too
<br>[14:52] Eryn Galen: any news from the admin side, dan, neb, Key?
<br>[14:53] Richardus Raymaker: lets say, for me it looks lieke arielle found one acid worm
<br>[14:53] mat mahogany: i just hope the shoes are choos
<br>[14:53] Nebadon Izumi: I don't really have anything new
<br>[14:53] Eryn Galen: lol you always say that Neb
<br>[14:53] dan banner: HG 2.0 was implementeed i think
<br>[14:53] dan banner: implemented
<br>[14:53] Eryn Galen: how far along is the testing with bullet?
<br>[14:53] Cloak Morhawk: I'm esh it way
<br>[14:53] Cloak Morhawk: mesh
<br>[14:54] Greybeard Thinker: I see cloak, but only as a mesh with no textures
<br>[14:54] Silver Ladds: werird i see Cloak fine
<br>[14:54] Greybeard Thinker: ahh textures coming in now at last
<br>[14:54] dan banner: eryn: robert made a bunch of commits this weekend
<br>[14:54] Baewyn Celara: back
<br>[14:54] Eryn Galen: nice
<br>[14:54] Greybeard Thinker: wb Bae
<br>[14:54] Arielle Popstar: we need bade plaza back
<br>[14:54] dan banner: i have not yet updated and tried any of them
<br>[14:55] Eryn Galen: Twisted, I see you as a cloud
<br>[14:55] Nocte Bella: wb
<br>[14:55] Eryn Galen: wb Bae
<br>[14:55] Jalen Optera: maybe we should have had the meeting in all hallows and danced through it
<br>[14:55] Baewyn Celara: ty
<br>[14:55] Nebadon Izumi: ya I need to test the bulletsim stuff too
<br>[14:55] Richardus Raymaker: hmm with verhicles it did the last time a bt weird..
<br>[14:55] Twisted Stickfigure: I already rebaked, must be my ancient dsl connection
<br>[14:55] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: yes an I said I would too,.an will
<br>[14:56] Nocte Bella: i see you fine twisted
<br>[14:56] Richardus Raymaker: First need to fix the hugging trains :)
<br>[14:56] Arielle Popstar: adams pu a lo of vehicle code in last night
<br>[14:56] Greybeard Thinker: I've been running a truck simulator lately,uses bullet physics, seems fine, not tested it here though
<br>[14:57] Baewyn Celara: I'll try BulletSim when I can understand the compile instructions
<br>[14:57] Greybeard Thinker: lol
<br>[14:57] Nocte Bella: pokes Bae
<br>[14:57] Baewyn Celara: What?
<br>[14:57] Nocte Bella: comedian :P
<br>[14:57] Richardus Raymaker: Bae wich one, for linux its easy. for windows btw to
<br>[14:57] Baewyn Celara: I'm serious they are the worst written compile instructions I've ever seen.
<br>[14:58] Richardus Raymaker: you ok, git is maby a bit harder
<br>[14:58] Greybeard Thinker: I thought it was already compiled in the grid download
<br>[14:58] Arielle Popstar: use the lates osgrid binary
<br>[14:58] Arielle Popstar: \
<br>[14:58] Baewyn Celara: It is?
<br>[14:58] Richardus Raymaker: i run on git more the last time again
<br>[14:58] Baewyn Celara downloads latest osgrid bin to replace 0.7.4 on the standalone
<br>[14:58] Key Gruin: Nebadon, have you heard from Dave Coyle? you know if he's ok?
<br>[14:59] Nebadon Izumi: I have not heard from him yet
<br>[14:59] Nebadon Izumi: I don't know whats going on with him
<br>[14:59] Key Gruin: he's in NYC right?
<br>[14:59] Mystic Moonlight: wb hippie rebake a lil
<br>[15:00] Baewyn Celara: Yes hippie. Please, Rebake Now!
<br>[15:00] Snik Snoodle sees a half baked hippie too
<br>[15:01] Nebadon Izumi: yes he is Key
<br>[15:01] Baewyn Celara: Heh Eryn I hope the Town Hall is done by then.
<br>[15:01] Key Gruin: yeah there's still oper outages there
<br>[15:01] Eryn Galen: Its slowed already Bae, s. probably ;)
<br>[15:01] Key Gruin: I'm sure he's ok
<br>[15:02] Baewyn Celara: Heh I thought we were just bringing Neb up to speed.
<br>[15:02] mat mahogany: ok, guys have to say gnight
<br>[15:02] Baewyn Celara: bye mat
<br>[15:02] Eryn Galen: night mat
<br>[15:02] mat mahogany: have fun good to see you all, :)
<br>[15:02] Richardus Raymaker: anyway working on physics train again. and it seems to work much better this days
<br>[15:02] Snik Snoodle: bye mat
<br>[15:02] Greybeard Thinker: this region is so crusty today it will take a week to bring Neb up to speed
<br>[15:02] George Equus: cu mat
<br>[15:02] mat mahogany: ty
<br>[15:02] Baewyn Celara: lol
<br>[15:03] Greybeard Thinker: 2.7fps is no fun here right now
<br>[15:03] Baewyn Celara: And we just lost Key.
<br>[15:03] Richardus Raymaker: eep
<br>[15:03] Baewyn Celara: I'm managing 8 with Singularity on low and most Render Types disabled.
<br>[15:03] Nebadon Izumi: I just sent Dave a email, see if he responds
<br>[15:03] Cloak Morhawk: bbl
<br>[15:03] Richardus Raymaker: what you want Bae, would you not scare to dead if you hear 2.7fps ?
<br>[15:03] Greybeard Thinker: mmm, it's pretty bad today for some reason
<br>[15:04] Nocte Bella: lol
<br>[15:04] Eryn Galen: its Sunday in the US, all the kiddies are on the net ;)
<br>[15:04] Arielle Popstar: try 2.9 with ping of 2540 Grey
<br>[15:04] Arielle Popstar: \
<br>[15:04] Snik Snoodle: 4.6 fps here
<br>[15:04] Greybeard Thinker: you getting better fps than me Ari
<br>[15:04] Baewyn Celara: rira if I turn those render types back on in the Adbanced menu my comp would go to 1.1fps
<br>[15:04] Twisted Stickfigure: .9 with Zen
<br>[15:04] Vivian Klees: 26.1 fps
<br>[15:04] Richardus Raymaker: DDrawdistance snik ?
<br>[15:04] Jalen Optera: I have 18.5 oh high
<br>[15:04] Eryn Galen: ouch Twisted
<br>[15:04] dan banner: i got 59ms ping
<br>[15:05] Richardus Raymaker: 17@256m
<br>[15:05] Arielle Popstar: yes but its the ping
<br>[15:05] George Equus: 5.1 here
<br>[15:05] Eryn Galen: LOL you dont count dan, you always have the lowest figure
<br>[15:05] Richardus Raymaker: high setting for me
<br>[15:05] Snik Snoodle: the pings the thing - lol
<br>[15:05] Eryn Galen: seems almost as if you live in the grids datacenter ;)
<br>[15:05] Arielle Popstar: wright plaza sucks for me consistently
<br>[15:05] Arielle Popstar: \
<br>[15:05] Greybeard Thinker: wierd thing is, my ping times are pretty good for us being at the other end of the world
<br>[15:05] Baewyn Celara: is 150 good?
<br>[15:05] Jalen Optera: I have 96 ping and I am east coast US
<br>[15:05] Baewyn Celara: 150ms
<br>[15:05] Snik Snoodle: yeah it does for me too arie
<br>[15:05] Snik Snoodle: v slow to rezz
<br>[15:06] Richardus Raymaker: 168ms
<br>[15:06] Baewyn Celara: Oh my mistake that was another state is 69 good?
<br>[15:06] Arielle Popstar: sandbox i ping under 100
<br>[15:06] Greybeard Thinker: my ping is below 350Ms and that is good for me
<br>[15:06] Richardus Raymaker: curios how its going to run on win8 (with metro kicked in a depp hole)
<br>[15:06] Baewyn Celara: *stat
<br>[15:06] Greybeard Thinker: just that the fps is way low for some reason
<br>[15:07] Richardus Raymaker: grey do you have webbrowser open on wrong page ? that sometimes screw the viewer to
<br>[15:07] Greybeard Thinker: nope
<br>[15:07] Greybeard Thinker: and shadows etc off ijn viewer
<br>[15:08] Richardus Raymaker: The only thing i see with viewers + fraps is that after a while you need to relog becasue fps drop to terrible rate
<br>[15:08] Greybeard Thinker: don't even have fraps installed so not that
<br>[15:09] Greybeard Thinker: this region is always slow for me, but never seen it this bad
<br>[15:09] Timber Wolfe: its actually pretty good
<br>[15:09] Eryn Galen: hey, we havent crashed ;)
<br>[15:09] Timber Wolfe: especially considering there was 33 here a few mins a go
<br>[15:09] Richardus Raymaker: Grey maby word particles ?
<br>[15:10] Shelann Morane: got a roast cooking and need to serve familly Bye all---kisses
<br>[15:10] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: tc She
<br>[15:10] Greybeard Thinker: ciao Shelann
<br>[15:10] Eryn Galen: bye Shelann
<br>[15:10] Baewyn Celara: bye Shelann
<br>[15:10] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: good luck on supper
<br>[15:10] Snik Snoodle: bye shelann
<br>[15:10] Richardus Raymaker: bye shel
<br>[15:11] Greybeard Thinker: odd, I get slightly better fps if I look at word, so not his particles upsetting things
<br>[15:11] Richardus Raymaker: not much here that play with verhicles i think ?
<br>[15:11] Richardus Raymaker: lol grey, thats opposite from what you always hear
<br>[15:11] Timber Wolfe: i play with the golf cart
<br>[15:12] Richardus Raymaker: i get the last times sometimes ode math.h error
<br>[15:13] Nebadon Izumi: make sure you file a mantis Richardus
<br>[15:13] hippie.balbozar @pei-hippie.zapto.org:8002: ttyl
<br>[15:13] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: tc Hip
<br>[15:13] Mystic Moonlight: cya all later ~s
<br>[15:13] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: you too Mystic
<br>[15:13] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: tc
<br>[15:13] Snik Snoodle: bye mystic
<br>[15:13] Mystic Moonlight: be at prim
<br>[15:13] Eryn Galen: see ya Mystic
<br>[15:13] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: see you then
<br>[15:14] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: okie
<br>[15:14] Baewyn Celara: bye Bob
<br>[15:14] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: im here Bae
<br>[15:14] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: soon however
<br>[15:14] Baewyn Celara: oops
<br>[15:14] Silver Ladds: nice to have met everyone
<br>[15:14] Silver Ladds: ciao
<br>[15:14] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: im just fine chillen
<br>[15:14] Baewyn Celara: bye Silver
<br>[15:14] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: tc Silver
<br>[15:14] Baewyn Celara: darn I'm on a role for saying bye to the wrong person
<br>[15:15] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: aok Bae
<br>[15:15] Key Gruin: meeting over?
<br>[15:15] Jalen Optera: you seem to Bae, but at least it wasnt me this time
<br>[15:15] Baewyn Celara: Heh
<br>[15:15] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: lol
<br>[15:15] Richardus Raymaker: i know nebadon, but not figured out when it happens
<br>[15:15] Baewyn Celara: I'm not saying bye to you anymore Jalen unless you say bye to me in im first.
<br>[15:15] Baewyn Celara: Less confusing that way.
<br>[15:15] Jalen Optera: ok, deal
<br>[15:16] Key Gruin: bye to everyone who's leaving!
<br>[15:16] Baewyn Celara: or I could pull a Key
<br>[15:16] Key Gruin: hello to all who's here
<br>[15:16] Richardus Raymaker: llGetKey() ?
<br>[15:16] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: hey Key
<br>[15:16] Baewyn Celara: lol
<br>[15:16] Jeeper Shim: lol
<br>[15:16] Jalen Optera: he could just record that as a gesture and play it periodically
<br>[15:16] Key Gruin: and hi to all in advance who aren't here yet
<br>[15:16] stiofain nbmcmedia: nite folks gotta go
<br>[15:16] Jalen Optera: bye Stio
<br>[15:16] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: tc Stio
<br>[15:16] Baewyn Celara: bye Stio
<br>[15:16] Snik Snoodle: bye stio
<br>[15:17] Key Gruin: seeya Stio
<br>[15:17] Bob.Solo @avirtualworld.dyndns.org:8002: ttyl
<br>[15:17] Jeeper Shim: see ya stio
<br>[15:17] George Equus: Nite Stio