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		<title>Osgridadmin: Created page with &quot; [10:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr  [10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo  [10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Dan called me yesterday, to check on me. I&#039;ve Just been very...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot; [10:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr  [10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo  [10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Dan called me yesterday, to check on me. I&amp;#039;ve Just been very...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt; [10:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Dan called me yesterday, to check on me. I&amp;#039;ve Just been very busy and with several problems here.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:52 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oei... But luckily you made it here.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: We had tropical storm right on top of us for about 4 days. lots of flooding.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:52 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Wow.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: In my own subdivision had flooding down the street to the right of us, flooding on the street behind us, and major flooding at entrance of sub division.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, The OSG17B event went smoothly. almost 2 regions full.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: I went through it with my SUV very slowly.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: Sorry I missed it. Also have a major problems with my new Native Instruments S88 MK3 keyboard.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:54 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oh. Thats bad.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: It would not run with out a firemare update, and Windows would not let it happen.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: So eventually had to arrange to get a new keyboard and let them update it, because it appears that only an Apple Mac computer would update it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Geez... Why that incompatibility with Windows??&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: I think I found the problems in Windows, so sort of Security settings for drivers and USB plugins.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: But now I think the firmware in the first midi keyboard is messed up.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oopsie.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: It said it was installed correctly, but then had to reboot. And it would not reboot.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: ough.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: Again probably because of bad drivers.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: Or MS not letting it reboot.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sad.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: Native Instruments is a company out of Germany.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: Just glad the company I deal with is here in the states.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: I have spent latterly days trying to get it to work, just finally gave up.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: But new Keyboard fully working should be here on Monday.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:59 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I can imagine... A firmware that will not load correctly although Windows says it is, is a real PIA...&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had to unplug every usb on my computer to see if the USB C would work on it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: It would not.&lt;br /&gt;
 [10:59 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Ships.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: i think they better designed it to work with Mac&amp;#039;s rather than PC&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:00 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sad that they choose just Mac compatibility... Such way they exclude a lot of people.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:01 AM]  albertlr Landar: BTW, I decided to from now on post all the chats from the Saturday Q&amp;amp;A in the Wiki directly. It a lot easier to read and store there.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:01 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay. That will be s good thing indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:01 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Lets see how many will attend today.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: So i am glad to see that they have a notice about the fundraiser up already.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: We need the donations of items for the auctions.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: They may give people time to put them together.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  Prince Amor: hello you all&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Prince how are you?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  Prince Amor: doing good thanks&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I even rearranged the Event teleporters so they are now in a chronological order. Much better to see the events.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:02 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Prince&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: yes you did a good job there thank you for that&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh that sounds good.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: i have seen more people using it too&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: because of that&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: and less where are the teleports&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: I will have to tour the Birthday regions now that things have calmed down for me in the real world.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I also lowered that Teleport lane in Lbsa so they are more visible and accessible.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: I enjoyed seeing that&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: Before Dan closes them down.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: yes I enjoyed watching them&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: I forgot to look at the theme before building&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: and didn&amp;#039;t feel like starting over&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-) Only -1 and -2 are in use. -3 and -4 are still empty.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  albertlr Landar: thats ok&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: yeah&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: still enjoyed it&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:04 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: got my new machine last night&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: I have 100 fps here&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Wow! Thats nice.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: on ultra&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  albertlr Landar: wow thats fast.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: to boot&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: yes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:05 AM]  albertlr Landar: you using AMD or Intel cpu&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Altough, for a visually impaired like me it does not matter that much. But, nice to have hardware that is capable of such framerates.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  inanna beaumont is Online&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: Specs:&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 CPU: AMD 7800x3d&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 MotherBoard : Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite with WIFI 6&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 RAM: 2x32GB (64GB Total) Samsung DDR5&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 Storage: 1 TB Samsung Evo 990 PCIE Gen5x2&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 Graphics Card: Nvidia 4070 Super FE&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 Power Supply EVGA 1000w P3&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 OS: Windows 11 Pro&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 Case: Lianli A3&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: I heard that Intel had problems with their cpu&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: oh big big ones yes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Jeehaw! Nice setup!&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: they lost a lot of vaule because of that.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: their cheating on the overclocking&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: started cooking them&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: yes guy that built this for me&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: was like&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: no intel just don&amp;#039;t ask&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea, my nephew has one from a friend that got fried because of heating up&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: i read an article over it&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: I did see they are offering extended warranties and what not&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  albertlr Landar: was trying to fix it, but looks like it requires a new cpu.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: it looks like they want to sell them anyway&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: that is right&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: is no fix at all for it if it happens&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: if you catch it early&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well they have a patch for the bios on the mother board they say.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: like you buy it and then do the patch&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: you might be ok&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: But it will only help those that have not been messed up yet.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: that is right&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: quite a thing that&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: It was funny when he started up, the heat on it just went up and up.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep,Those Intel boards is first thing out of the box is patching that BIOS (UEFI) to get rid of that overclockig problem.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  albertlr Landar: despite the three fan Radiator cooler on top.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: yes yes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: so glad I didn&amp;#039;t go that way&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  Neovo Geesink: They act like the early AMD&amp;#039;s now...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: it is like intel fell out of favor&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: the ryzens are running happy happy&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: and are cheaper too I think&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Would be quite a blow when Datacentres switch to AMD all  together...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: it seems like there is a cycle&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: going on&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had similar problem with my new Native Instruments S88 MK3 midi keyboard.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: it is like that with apple too&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: I would not buy an apple now&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: soldered memory&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: I was so sad&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: I moved my m1&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: to use it for my work computer you know&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: blender and what not&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: and boy it bit the big one&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: It required a firmware update before it could be used, but the firmware update will not work in Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: and is locked in at 16 gig&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: ahh&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: Now if I had an apple they say the update would work.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: wonder if intel would go down over it&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: apple stopped using Intel also&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: way before&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: about 3 years now&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: I do still have a bunch of 2012 minis&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, that would be another CPU manufacturer down... Like cyrix.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: that are using it&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well i think the problem in my case was a setting that MS had set up for Security for USB and Drivers.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: yes you were saying was quite a crash&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: Sometimes they over protect things.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: oh yes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: and well for here it is just&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: well rough&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: the firewall kills a sim off easy&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  albertlr Landar: I bet.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: can do rules if you want but even then&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: need a better firewall&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:13 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had to go into windows and put in place rules to allow opensim to got out and come in.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: that is right&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: and even then&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: it will slow down rezzing to a trickle&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: Other wise they would shut down immediately when started.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: it thinks an avatar tping in is a ddos attack&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: i wish I knew a better firewall&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Same issue at my servers... Had to also put in a bunch of rules in the firewall... (Win10 Pro)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: you all konw one?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: then defender and that?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: it is like&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: no really.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: there is no other or something&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: yeah&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: defender wiped them out&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: and well apple has its own too really&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: these days they way that the other firewalls nag you is like a hacker.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: yes I can agree with that also&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: even the virus software&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea especially the Virus Software.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: I use to use Noton all the time, not now.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:16 AM]  Neovo Geesink: OUGH... A Canon to shoot a bacteria...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:16 AM]  albertlr Landar: I think a lot of those successful software companies get bought by venture capitalist, and they end up ruining what it does.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:16 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Norton is seriously heavy on your resources.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: i like malwarbytes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: if i have an issue it seems to fix it&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:17 AM]  albertlr Landar: thats good.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:17 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I have Avast, paid plan, and I am content with it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:17 AM]  albertlr Landar: thats good too.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:18 AM]  albertlr Landar: So many of the Internet companies have gone to over the top using strange ways to protect data.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:19 AM]  albertlr Landar: My on line pharmacy when I run low on a prescription will not tell me which prescription it really is, they use some obscure number which I can not interpret.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:19 AM]  albertlr Landar: makes me mad.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:19 AM]  Neovo Geesink: This morning I had to restart Sandbox Plaza III due to the Scripts completely died there... It even did not came back on-line, so I messaged Dan, and he got it to reboot.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: hum wonder why that is.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:20 AM]  Neovo Geesink: This happens often in III.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: its the only one using something isn&amp;#039;t iot?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:20 AM]  Neovo Geesink: The other two Sandbox Plaza&amp;#039;s are OKay.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:21 AM]  Neovo Geesink: It is using ubODE...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: Ubode?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:21 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Probably something with that.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: thought so.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: the only thing I have a problem with Bullet is walking up steps.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: If they fixed that then I would have no problem with it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep, If the steps are too high, an Avatar will not climb it...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: i think the regions are falling asleep&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: like a time out&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  albertlr Landar: Or have to try going side ways.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: so if you sit at lbsa&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: you can&amp;#039;t tp back out&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: after about 15 minutes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: frame rate there is also half the speed of here&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oopsie...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: and well my own places too&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, All that stuff in Lbsa is indeed bringing down the frame rate... Also some over complex Avatars there.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: I saw where they were discussing problems with Firestorm recently.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: Some changes with SL settings.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: yes yes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  Neovo Geesink: OUGH... I have reverted to 6. FS 7 is not my sort..&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: lots of stuff going on&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: fs7&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: has major major issues&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: can&amp;#039;t find the last outfit&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: dan knows of it though&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: it is on the jira etc..&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea trying to keep up with changes on Second Life do not work well here.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Neovo Geesink: It throws off the entire light balancing... :-( Thats at least one of the issues I had.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: yes i noticed that also&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: I am really enjoying making things with pbr&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: but&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: some things are pretty weird&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  albertlr Landar: At least Singularity is not being changed much these days.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: and some are non standard with some game assets&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:25 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Singularity throws me out of Lbsa and other crowded regions now and then... If i am in a region with only a few avatars I have no problems with Singu whatsoever... But Firestorm keeps me in all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: it is usually after a crash&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: or purge of cache&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: that it is a major workout&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: trying to get back in&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: i noticed the vram toggle&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: seems to help&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: which means fs may be not quite getting the numbers right&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: so it is not dynamically assigning it, but set to a fixed value?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: when i set it to 32&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: it seems to behave better&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: on fs7&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  albertlr Landar: Humn i checked the download page at Singularity and looks like they removed the Nightly Download page&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: less likely to crash&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: IF I ever switch back to FS7, I will try that.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:28 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.singularityviewer.org/downloads/&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:28 AM]  Prince Amor: it seems to of helped many&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:30 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Apart from mentioned Sandbox Plaza III, all is going pretty well here.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:30 AM]  Prince Amor: in general yes&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:30 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well that is good to hear&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:30 AM]  Prince Amor: was a big move&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:31 AM]  Prince Amor: can ony get better as they fix it&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:31 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hopefully.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:33 AM]  albertlr Landar: I was just looking at the Showcase in Singularity, I am glad to see many more users have started putting their regions in it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:33 AM]  albertlr Landar: Seems to be growing in use.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:34 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:34 AM]  Prince Amor: there are a few other web pages running also&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:34 AM]  Prince Amor: wha tis the show case?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:36 AM]  Prince Amor: https://soziarium.su/post/27076&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:36 AM]  Prince Amor: is a new site&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:37 AM]  Prince Amor: not sure how good it is in the end&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:37 AM]  Prince Amor: or who is running it you know&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh its FS too.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: If you look in Singularity under the search, look for the heading Showcase.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: There are 89 entries now it seems.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: Not sure if some aren&amp;#039;t duplicates however.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: However I had one region where I have freebies, and I placed two boxes on it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:38 AM]  Prince Amor: oh it is in the viewer&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:38 AM]  Prince Amor: not a web page or something&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: Because it is so large, one at the main warehouse, and then on at the other end where I have a mall.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:38 AM]  Prince Amor: kind of like the outworldz one&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:39 AM]  albertlr Landar: well yes its also on the web site too.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:39 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/destinations/&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: Destination Guild on web site.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: Listed under Grid.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/destinations_guide_helper.php&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:40 AM]  Prince Amor: ahh i have not seen that that is cool&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:41 AM]  Prince Amor: need to get more people to do that&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:41 AM]  albertlr Landar: And helper page to set it up if you have regions you would like to set i on your own regions.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:41 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Seems that I have to update the picture for Meet&amp;amp;Greet... That building is no more. Was difficult to manage when inside due to viewing angle.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:42 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well I know you can give Dan a pic to place on it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:42 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:42 AM]  Prince Amor: I have all my personals there&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:42 AM]  Prince Amor: nice to see that develop&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:42 AM]  Prince Amor: know you all been working that for long time&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:43 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea, it was sitting un-used for a while.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:43 AM]  Prince Amor: well that one script was an issue for a while&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:43 AM]  Prince Amor: seems to work well now though&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:44 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I Think Paela was the first who pioneered it?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:44 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:44 AM]  albertlr Landar: there were a few bugs that had to be worked out, and its working a lot better now.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:44 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:44 AM]  Prince Amor: i notice it is showing event plaza in 3 slots&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea different categories I guess.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: not sure if you can list more than one in a set up.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: But its possible.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:46 AM]  Prince Amor: is paela the only one that can add it?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  Prince Amor: or is it just the script?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: No you can basically do it yourself, also Dan can adjust things if needed.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: It just how you set up the script.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  Neovo Geesink: The script seems to determine in which category it goes.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  Prince Amor: ok will look at that&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:47 AM]  Neovo Geesink: There are comments embedded in the Script.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: yes I worked it before&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: just&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: notice a new one there&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  albertlr Landar: As I mentioned I had placed mine in two different locations on my same var region.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: ahh that could be cool&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: will think on that too&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:48 AM]  albertlr Landar: At the front and at the back, which are two different shopping areas.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: It just shows the same pic for both.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: will see what they are doing&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: let me go ahead and leave you all&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: do that before I forget&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: ok thanks for coming take care.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: of course have a nice day now&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-) Till next time.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well Hypergird Business in its latest update on the grids shows OSgrid as still the largest, with second largest attendance.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2024/07/opensim-regions-up-actives-down-with-summer-heat/&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Wow. Nice.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: But never heard of Simation Grid?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: New to me as well...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: Says at beginning of Article they say they have 25,408 regions?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:51 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yikes? That fast?&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Yea I wonder if that includes user, or just land they have set up.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: And wonder if they are commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh I see they only have 19 users right now, so guess just getting started.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I do not know. They might end up in the Opensimworld beacon sooner or later, so we can check them out.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hum they say they have 31 regions which standard region equivalents are 25, 408 Km2.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:54 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Looks like they have a few VARs there...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: I am not sure how you translate that, but I would guess they are talking about Var Regions.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sure, since one can cramp 16 Standards in a square Kilometre.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: But I know that very large var regions are not practical at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I am keeping them Max 3X3. I have experimented earlier with a 10X10, but that was overkill.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: 512 X 512 I think is the largest recommended size unless you have a very fast computer.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep. Thats why I have splitted my VARs and Standards across 2 seperate servers.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: hum says Technology Build on Opensim, wonder if they are doing some of their own programming on it.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: If so hope they share.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:58 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Even the unknown of which version they use...&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: Yea.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: Some made some nice changes in the past but did to share, then they close down and it gets lost.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:58 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hopefully not Simonastick.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well I guess I shall call it quits for today. No one else here to inquiry about things.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:59 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Indeed... I agree.&lt;br /&gt;
 [11:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: Thanks for coming Neovo. Hope you don&amp;#039;t get all the rain we had here on the Eastern Side of the US.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, we will see here in the Netherlands...&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Till next time.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: We still have possible Hurricanes to look forward too in the coming months however.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Aii...&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: Next Board meeting in Sept I hear.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Yes, Indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: But will check in before.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Sept. 1st.&lt;br /&gt;
 [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: Good Day to you.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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