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</table>Osgridadminhttp://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php?title=Saturday_Q%26A_for_July_13th,_2024&diff=935&oldid=prevOsgridadmin: Created page with " [10:53 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr [10:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo [10:54 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hi [10:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Just glad I got on [10:5..."2024-07-13T20:56:40Z<p>Created page with " [10:53 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr [10:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo [10:54 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hi [10:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Just glad I got on [10:5..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div> [10:53 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr<br />
[10:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo<br />
[10:54 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hi<br />
[10:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Just glad I got on<br />
[10:54 AM] Nay Kell is Offline<br />
[10:55 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-) I heared that there was a big outage in the states?<br />
[10:55 AM] albertlr Landar: That is probably in Texas.<br />
[10:55 AM] Neovo Geesink: Wow...<br />
[10:55 AM] albertlr Landar: The had very bad storm damage<br />
[10:55 AM] Neovo Geesink: Aii<br />
[10:55 AM] albertlr Landar: Especially Houston, I understand they still are without power in some places there.<br />
[10:56 AM] albertlr Landar: But fine here in GA.<br />
[10:56 AM] Neovo Geesink: wOW, THATS SERIOUS...<br />
[10:56 AM] Neovo Geesink: Oops<br />
[10:56 AM] Neovo Geesink: Caps-lock.<br />
[10:56 AM] albertlr Landar: yea, wonder if it affected Jeff or Wizard<br />
[10:56 AM] albertlr Landar: they are both there in Texas.<br />
[10:56 AM] Neovo Geesink: Okay.<br />
[10:57 AM] albertlr Landar: Fortunately our servers are no longer there.<br />
[10:57 AM] albertlr Landar: They are up in Canada<br />
[10:57 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-) Thats indeed a fortunate coincidence that they ae no longer there.<br />
[10:57 AM] albertlr Landar: But I had computer problems myself.<br />
[10:57 AM] albertlr Landar: Two weeks ago I saw Unicampus on your teleport board, and try to click on it.<br />
[10:57 AM] albertlr Landar: Noticed that I could not get it to work.<br />
[10:58 AM] Neovo Geesink: Oh?<br />
[10:58 AM] albertlr Landar: So I went on line to check my servers at OVH<br />
[10:58 AM] albertlr Landar: Discovered my disk had completely filled up with backups.<br />
[10:58 AM] albertlr Landar: So nothing could be written to the disk.<br />
[10:58 AM] Neovo Geesink: Ships... :-(<br />
[10:58 AM] albertlr Landar: It was because of a setting I had set in Autobackup module.<br />
[10:58 AM] albertlr Landar: It was suppose to only save two weeks of back ups.<br />
[10:59 AM] Neovo Geesink: I have set mine to keep 14 days.<br />
[10:59 AM] albertlr Landar: Well it was not working so basically filled up my disk.<br />
[10:59 AM] Neovo Geesink: ough..<br />
[10:59 AM] albertlr Landar: It does not work for me.<br />
[10:59 AM] albertlr Landar: So anyway I deleted most all the backups.<br />
[10:59 AM] albertlr Landar: And reinstalled the latest OSgrid downloads.<br />
[11:00 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-)<br />
[11:00 AM] albertlr Landar: Then noticed that Windows had updates that they said were essential.<br />
[11:00 AM] albertlr Landar: So I set it up to update before restarting.<br />
[11:00 AM] albertlr Landar: Then the trouble began.<br />
[11:00 AM] Neovo Geesink: Yep... Windows have some lately.<br />
[11:00 AM] albertlr Landar: The update from windows hit an error and I could not get it to complete.<br />
[11:00 AM] albertlr Landar: I was off line for 4 days.<br />
[11:00 AM] Neovo Geesink: Ships...<br />
[11:00 AM] albertlr Landar: Trying to get windows fixed.<br />
[11:01 AM] albertlr Landar: Nothing worked, could not get it to reboot with out going into the the error with updating.<br />
[11:01 AM] Neovo Geesink: Thats bad...<br />
[11:01 AM] albertlr Landar: So finally gave up and restored windows, reinstalled everything including MyuSQL latest update<br />
[11:02 AM] albertlr Landar: Then found out I could not copy my backed up regions oar files, as some were too big.<br />
[11:02 AM] Neovo Geesink: wow...<br />
[11:02 AM] albertlr Landar: The remote with windows kept messing up.<br />
[11:02 AM] albertlr Landar: Took two more days, just to get things copied over.<br />
[11:02 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-/<br />
[11:03 AM] albertlr Landar: Finally found a program that I could install of the OVH and my computer to copy files over, but even that was difficult.<br />
[11:03 AM] albertlr Landar: finally got everything working again.<br />
[11:03 AM] Neovo Geesink: Sjeez.. Odd that copying files over a remote connection must be so difficult...<br />
[11:03 AM] albertlr Landar: All because Windows can't get their act together on updates.<br />
[11:03 AM] Neovo Geesink: Yep.<br />
[11:03 AM] Deanna Janus is Offline<br />
[11:04 AM] Deanna Janus is Online<br />
[11:04 AM] albertlr Landar: Well if I was going between just two computer locally no problem, but it gets difficult if you are copying to a server using windows Server 2022<br />
[11:04 AM] albertlr Landar: But I also had problems getting my opensim running.<br />
[11:05 AM] albertlr Landar: Finally tracked that problem down.<br />
[11:05 AM] Neovo Geesink: At the OSG17B regions are now 2 completely allotted, and Dan will close down 3 and 4.<br />
[11:05 AM] albertlr Landar: If you follow the directions on the download page it says to download .Net 8, but really does not mention you also need .NET 6 also<br />
[11:05 AM] albertlr Landar: It use to say that.<br />
[11:05 AM] Neovo Geesink: Odd... So Net8 is merely only an upgrade...<br />
[11:06 AM] albertlr Landar: But according to dan you do neet both.<br />
[11:06 AM] albertlr Landar: yea<br />
[11:06 AM] albertlr Landar: But if starting from scratch you need .NEt 6 and .Net 8<br />
[11:06 AM] albertlr Landar: But that is what I have been doing.<br />
[11:07 AM] Neovo Geesink: Yeah, Net6 is probably the foundation for Net8... Just in the early days when Win95 Upgrade was cheaper, since it Needed atleast Win3.11<br />
[11:07 AM] albertlr Landar: Also been having problems logging into the forums, so decided to start putting the chat from Sat. Q&A directly in the Wiki from now on.<br />
[11:07 AM] Neovo Geesink: Okay.<br />
[11:07 AM] albertlr Landar: https://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php/Saturday_Q&A_for_June_8th,_2024<br />
[11:08 AM] albertlr Landar: Here is the last chat, its easier to read on the Wiki now too.<br />
[11:08 AM] Neovo Geesink: Indeed. Have opened tat page.<br />
[11:08 AM] albertlr Landar: Found out that the secret to posting it in the wiki is there has to be a space on each line of the text.<br />
[11:09 AM] Lobo Estepario is Online<br />
[11:09 AM] Neovo Geesink: Odd... Strange formatting to need a blank space in front...<br />
[11:09 AM] albertlr Landar: Found a way to do that in Notepad++ automatically.<br />
[11:09 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-)<br />
[11:10 AM] albertlr Landar: Using a very strange code in the replace and insert functions.<br />
[11:10 AM] Neovo Geesink: OKay.<br />
[11:10 AM] albertlr Landar: 22<br />
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Open your file in Notepad++<br />
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Press Ctrl+H to open the Replace window.<br />
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Change the "Search Mode" to Regular expression.<br />
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In the "Find what" box, type (\n|^)<br />
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In the "Replace with" box, type \1 (with your spaces or tab at the end)<br />
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Then click "Replace All"<br />
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Note: If you want tabs instead of spaces, a tab character can be typed with Alt+09<br />
[11:11 AM] albertlr Landar: The secret is to have a space after the \1<br />
[11:11 AM] Neovo Geesink: Geez... Need a course to us use that system...<br />
[11:11 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hello Prince<br />
[11:11 AM] albertlr Landar: sure do I had to search for this other wise it was to add manually a space on each line.<br />
[11:11 AM] Prince Amor: hello how goes it?<br />
[11:11 AM] Prince Amor [en→es]: hola como te va?<br />
[11:12 AM] albertlr Landar: Hello Prince.<br />
[11:12 AM] Neovo Geesink: Well, The allotment of the OG17B regions is finalized, Dan will close down 3 and 4.<br />
[11:12 AM] albertlr Landar: Hum you look like a Hot Dog Machince today.<br />
[11:12 AM] Prince Amor: yes complete with medieval shield<br />
[11:12 AM] Prince Amor: hehe<br />
[11:13 AM] Prince Amor: pbr<br />
[11:13 AM] Prince Amor: though<br />
[11:13 AM] Prince Amor: you guys using the new viewer?<br />
[11:13 AM] albertlr Landar: So it did not go beyond region 2 then.<br />
[11:14 AM] Neovo Geesink: No, I reverted to 6.6.17.70368. The 7 throws off the Lighting scheme ad balance...<br />
[11:15 AM] albertlr Landar: Which new viewer, Firestorm?<br />
[11:15 AM] albertlr Landar: I still use Singularity for simplicty sake<br />
[11:15 AM] albertlr Landar: usually<br />
[11:15 AM] Putri SoloSinger is Online<br />
[11:15 AM] Neovo Geesink: Due to my visual impairment I am quite picky on how my regions are presented... Since 7 seems to throw off the baance, no matter which settings I tweak, I have discarded it.<br />
[11:16 AM] Neovo Geesink: Yes, It is Singularity 7.nn<br />
[11:16 AM] Neovo Geesink: Err Firestorm I mean.<br />
[11:16 AM] albertlr Landar: seems all the new releases seem to have some bugs till they get worked out.<br />
[11:16 AM] Prince Amor: yes quite a few crashes<br />
[11:16 AM] Prince Amor: often right at log in<br />
[11:17 AM] albertlr Landar: well give them feedback or they don't fix it.<br />
[11:17 AM] Prince Amor: yes i did<br />
[11:17 AM] albertlr Landar: good<br />
[11:17 AM] Prince Amor: jira<br />
[11:17 AM] Neovo Geesink: I also did.<br />
[11:17 AM] Prince Amor: mantis<br />
[11:17 AM] Prince Amor: ubit answered one of them<br />
[11:17 AM] Prince Amor: though it remains to be seen<br />
[11:18 AM] Prince Amor: all of us that are running them get the same error<br />
[11:18 AM] Prince Amor: kris<br />
[11:18 AM] Prince Amor: unad<br />
[11:18 AM] Prince Amor: not often<br />
[11:18 AM] Prince Amor: just here and there on usually a var<br />
[11:18 AM] albertlr Landar: I sure with the Microsoft people would fix their releases before giving them to the public.<br />
[11:19 AM] Prince Amor: pfft<br />
[11:19 AM] Prince Amor: like the ai thing?<br />
[11:19 AM] albertlr Landar: I was telling Neovo that about two weeks ago, when I tried to run an upgrade on my OVH server instances, it hung up with an error on upgrading. I could not get it to reset and log in<br />
[11:19 AM] Prince Amor: that records your desktop<br />
[11:19 AM] Prince Amor: :-)?<br />
[11:20 AM] albertlr Landar: I was off line for 6 days, till I finally gave up and reinstalled Windows Server and everything else.<br />
[11:20 AM] Prince Amor: ovh is?<br />
[11:20 AM] albertlr Landar: hosting company in Virginia.<br />
[11:20 AM] Prince Amor: did you do dotnet 8?<br />
[11:20 AM] albertlr Landar: Also for OSGrid in Canada.<br />
[11:20 AM] Prince Amor: some missed that<br />
[11:20 AM] albertlr Landar: Windows would not even start up.<br />
[11:21 AM] albertlr Landar: IT just hung, so could not log into it.<br />
[11:21 AM] Prince Amor: that would suck<br />
[11:21 AM] Prince Amor: death of a hard drive<br />
[11:21 AM] albertlr Landar: I tried everything and even using linux rescue<br />
[11:21 AM] albertlr Landar: Hard drive was fine, it was Windows.<br />
[11:21 AM] Prince Amor: windows 11?<br />
[11:21 AM] albertlr Landar: no Windows Server 2022<br />
[11:22 AM] Prince Amor: ah<br />
[11:24 AM] Prince Amor: I just have not tried windows server ever<br />
[11:25 AM] albertlr Landar: yea, but still it should not have errors when upgrading<br />
[11:25 AM] albertlr Landar: but it runs fine usually. that is the first error I have ever seenn with a upgrade.<br />
[11:26 AM] Neovo Geesink: .... Well, I had it once with Windows Sever 2003 and Exchange back then... An Update killed Exchange, so no mail for the entire school... :-/<br />
[11:26 AM] Prince Amor: i actually stopped using windows<br />
[11:26 AM] albertlr Landar: And Ms said to use file restore, back up to a back up. nothing would work, because windows would not start up.<br />
[11:26 AM] Prince Amor: till i needed it for here<br />
[11:26 AM] Neovo Geesink: Had to roll the updates back, and restart the damn thing...<br />
[11:26 AM] Prince Amor: over those updates<br />
[11:27 AM] albertlr Landar: Well I am seeing more and more musicians say they are fed up with Windows not supporting audio properly and they are switching to MACs<br />
[11:27 AM] Prince Amor: they insist on it<br />
[11:27 AM] Prince Amor: mac has garbage too though<br />
[11:27 AM] Prince Amor: if they would stop fighting<br />
[11:27 AM] Prince Amor: it would make everyone better<br />
[11:27 AM] albertlr Landar: I know, but they have better support for Audio.<br />
[11:27 AM] Prince Amor: oh yes<br />
[11:27 AM] Prince Amor: logic is incredible<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: used it for years now<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: did all my recordings with them<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: over 100<br />
[11:28 AM] albertlr Landar: Well Cubase runs very well on it too I understand.<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: if not more<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: cubase is very good<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: but logic<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: just well the quality seems better<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: I used cubase for years also<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: and well logic before that on the ataric ste and falcon<br />
[11:28 AM] albertlr Landar: Well I think that Apple makes Logic<br />
[11:28 AM] Prince Amor: yes<br />
[11:29 AM] Prince Amor: though at first it was called notator logic<br />
[11:29 AM] albertlr Landar: So would think it should work well with Mac<br />
[11:29 AM] Prince Amor: it was the first program that came out that would print music<br />
[11:29 AM] Prince Amor: was by emagic<br />
[11:29 AM] Prince Amor: then apple bought emagic<br />
[11:29 AM] Prince Amor: for a while they had logic on windows also<br />
[11:30 AM] Prince Amor: then apple bought it and made it proprietary<br />
[11:30 AM] Prince Amor: protocols then became the windows go to<br />
[11:30 AM] Prince Amor: for a long time<br />
[11:30 AM] albertlr Landar: Well I have Cubase Pro and Dorico Pro.<br />
[11:30 AM] Prince Amor: have not tried dorico<br />
[11:30 AM] albertlr Landar: They usually run well.<br />
[11:30 AM] Prince Amor: i think it is the windows reliance on bad hardware for the usb hookup<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: creates noise in the line<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: that renders recordings<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: useless<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: noise i mean<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: buzz...and well one pop<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: means you have to do the take over<br />
[11:31 AM] albertlr Landar: Dorico has a lot of the developers that use to work on Sibelius<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: finale is very good<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: if one wants to publish<br />
[11:31 AM] albertlr Landar: yea<br />
[11:31 AM] Prince Amor: i will look it up have me curious now<br />
[11:32 AM] albertlr Landar: I have been composing since I was 12.<br />
[11:32 AM] albertlr Landar: Have BA degree in Music.<br />
[11:32 AM] albertlr Landar: Its my other interest besides opensim.<br />
[11:32 AM] Prince Amor: would have to see the font set<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: to see if it is publisher ready or not<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: when I went for my masters<br />
[11:33 AM] albertlr Landar: Oh they have excellent fonts.<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: the word was use Sibelius<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: or finale<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: period<br />
[11:33 AM] albertlr Landar: And you can add you own if you want.<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: if going to submit to publishers<br />
[11:33 AM] Prince Amor: something about that they only accepted certain file formats<br />
[11:34 AM] albertlr Landar: yea<br />
[11:34 AM] Prince Amor: of course this was about a decade ago now<br />
[11:34 AM] Prince Amor: things do evolve<br />
[11:34 AM] albertlr Landar: Well in May they said there was a big drop in users because of 3rd Rock going off line.<br />
[11:34 AM] Prince Amor: so any idea....of the status of the newest servers osgrid has?<br />
[11:35 AM] albertlr Landar: Working will I hear.<br />
[11:35 AM] albertlr Landar: Less problems<br />
[11:35 AM] albertlr Landar: well<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: I only ask because the one error<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: a 499<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: is the worst one<br />
[11:35 AM] Jeff Hall is Online<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: sim is still on<br />
[11:35 AM] albertlr Landar: hum<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: says connection refused<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: and when go into it<br />
[11:35 AM] albertlr Landar: not even sure what 499 is.<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: it is looking for the assets<br />
[11:35 AM] Prince Amor: on a drive F<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: that well is not my computer<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: you know<br />
[11:36 AM] albertlr Landar: hum<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: reboot fixes it<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: every time<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: seems like happens about once a week or so on a few sims<br />
[11:36 AM] albertlr Landar: that sounds like a bad setting in an ini file.<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: well i totally redid the sim from scratch<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: totally<br />
[11:36 AM] albertlr Landar: have you mentioned that to Jeff.<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: did to dan<br />
[11:36 AM] Prince Amor: put it on the mantis<br />
[11:37 AM] albertlr Landar: Sorry Dan<br />
[11:37 AM] Prince Amor: ubit looked at it<br />
[11:37 AM] Prince Amor: between that and firestorm 7 crashing constantly<br />
[11:37 AM] Prince Amor: makes the experience not as happy<br />
[11:37 AM] albertlr Landar: I would go back to last Firestorm till they fix it if I was you<br />
[11:38 AM] Prince Amor: well i am ok with it for myself<br />
[11:38 AM] Prince Amor: problem is the inexperienced users<br />
[11:38 AM] Prince Amor: that run into it don't tolerate the pain<br />
[11:38 AM] Prince Amor: :-)<br />
[11:38 AM] albertlr Landar: I did find out that you must download both .Net 6 and .Net 8 for latest osgrid downloads.<br />
[11:38 AM] Prince Amor: yes and i did that<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: all 80 regions are on the newest build<br />
[11:39 AM] albertlr Landar: Most already have .net 6 downloaded.<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: i made it all net 8 also<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: so they all run<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: just never saw that error before<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: and well when it happens<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: all other sims are totally fine<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: you know<br />
[11:39 AM] albertlr Landar: Well I had to start over on my server, and download page mentioned .NEt 8, so it would not start up for me until I also insalled .Net 6<br />
[11:39 AM] Prince Amor: I even tried switching its ports<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: yes some weird thing about that<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: i agree though<br />
[11:40 AM] albertlr Landar: Wonder if it could be firewall.<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: it is like had to add 8<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: i checked all that<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: and again<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: all other sims are accessible<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: same computer<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: all except the one with the error<br />
[11:40 AM] albertlr Landar: I could not teleport to Unicampus for a good while, and finally found it was a problem with firewall on my server.<br />
[11:40 AM] Prince Amor: had three different ones that do that<br />
[11:41 AM] Prince Amor: and yes firewalls<br />
[11:41 AM] Prince Amor: don't like opensim<br />
[11:41 AM] Prince Amor: they think it is a ddos attack<br />
[11:41 AM] albertlr Landar: I made sure ever instance has a rule set up and going out and in for them.<br />
[11:42 AM] albertlr Landar: https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2024/06/opensim-users-hit-all-time-high-despite-3rd-rock-closure/<br />
[11:42 AM] albertlr Landar: But Reports from Hypergird Business for June says usage is back up.<br />
[11:42 AM] albertlr Landar: good to know.<br />
[11:42 AM] albertlr Landar: With Temperatures going up, do not thing many people want to be outside these days in the states.<br />
[11:43 AM] Prince Amor: i think we are all doing good with it despite issues<br />
[11:43 AM] Prince Amor: I still really enjoy myself here<br />
[11:43 AM] Prince Amor: free uploads<br />
[11:43 AM] Prince Amor: hot dogs<br />
[11:43 AM] Prince Amor: people<br />
[11:43 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-)<br />
[11:44 AM] Prince Amor: everyone wants the perfect experience of course<br />
[11:44 AM] Prince Amor: and well sl is what everyone compares too<br />
[11:44 AM] Prince Amor: despite its monetization etc...<br />
[11:44 AM] Prince Amor: and we are always very close<br />
[11:44 AM] Prince Amor: in many ways<br />
[11:44 AM] albertlr Landar: yea<br />
[11:45 AM] Prince Amor: key word is experience though<br />
[11:45 AM] Prince Amor: if the experience hre is frustrating<br />
[11:45 AM] Prince Amor: they tend not to hand out<br />
[11:45 AM] Prince Amor: though it is oft their own issues<br />
[11:45 AM] albertlr Landar: Well hopefully we have our wiki and download areas with good expliantions for everything for new people. And for those that run into problems.<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: well yes a lot is very good<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: usually it is things like<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: bodys being different here<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: with the same names<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: things like that<br />
[11:46 AM] albertlr Landar: I think that Neovo has done an excellent jot with the newest Teleporters to get people around.<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: yes<br />
[11:46 AM] Prince Amor: just wish they were not so far away from the landing<br />
[11:47 AM] Prince Amor: quite a bit of lag in lbsa these days also<br />
[11:47 AM] Prince Amor: and<br />
[11:47 AM] Prince Amor: more likely to crash if trying to log in there by the way<br />
[11:47 AM] albertlr Landar: Well I moved my var regions way out to the outer areas to avoid conflicts with others.<br />
[11:47 AM] Prince Amor: with new viewer especially<br />
[11:47 AM] Prince Amor: yes i did too actually<br />
[11:47 AM] Prince Amor: found a nice big empty area<br />
[11:47 AM] Neovo Geesink: Well, I keep them maintained as best as possible....<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: oh yes<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: just people look for it right off you know<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: being up the hill<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: well<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: requires<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: someone to say<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: up there<br />
[11:48 AM] albertlr Landar: I think that is probably one of the biggest problems on SL, is having everyone right next to each other.<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: :-)<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: oh yes I agree<br />
[11:48 AM] Prince Amor: I only allow neighbors by request<br />
[11:49 AM] Prince Amor: i do have one person<br />
[11:49 AM] Neovo Geesink: Well, I had to keep the shape of Lbsa intact so thats why I do not have them scattered around the landing point. But made a sort of Teleport lane, with a big sign above it.<br />
[11:49 AM] Prince Amor: that has 6 8x8xs<br />
[11:49 AM] albertlr Landar: So the Birthday regions are officially open on the 22nd.<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: yes neovo<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: maybe a bigger sign?<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: :-)<br />
[11:50 AM] albertlr Landar: And this year the theme is Music. So can expect lots of that that week.<br />
[11:50 AM] Neovo Geesink: Yep, But Builders have done quite a frantic job already.<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: or like a transparent prim<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: or something<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: that is visible from 128<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: tha can walk through<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: seen that before<br />
[11:50 AM] Prince Amor: sign is over everyones head you know<br />
[11:51 AM] Neovo Geesink: I can try to enlarge that Teleporters sign on Lbsa...<br />
[11:51 AM] Prince Amor: I really appreciate how well you stay on top of the stuff though<br />
[11:51 AM] Prince Amor: you all are great people<br />
[11:52 AM] Neovo Geesink: I can also (Illigaly) lower the entire lane to the same level as the landingzone.<br />
[11:52 AM] Prince Amor: i won't tell anyone<br />
[11:52 AM] Prince Amor: :-)<br />
[11:52 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-D<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: ok well i appreciate you having the meeting<br />
[11:53 AM] Neovo Geesink: Hope that Paela is not jumping me for that... :-))<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: eh<br />
[11:53 AM] albertlr Landar: I am just so glad I got all my Var regions back up working after 6 says of being off line.<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: well yes<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: such things like that<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: can be stressful<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: if used to having them just there<br />
[11:53 AM] Prince Amor: I feel pretty lucky really<br />
[11:53 AM] albertlr Landar: I also was going to host them from home for a while.<br />
[11:54 AM] Prince Amor: i host mine at home<br />
[11:54 AM] albertlr Landar: I probably need to set up such a thing just in case for the future.<br />
[11:54 AM] Prince Amor: I am very happy<br />
[11:54 AM] Prince Amor: I get where the rentals have appeal but<br />
[11:54 AM] Prince Amor: no bill for me<br />
[11:54 AM] Prince Amor: just electric whatever that is<br />
[11:54 AM] Neovo Geesink: I have only 13 regions, so I do host them from home as well.<br />
[11:54 AM] albertlr Landar: Well I now have Solor panels, which pretty much provide me with all my Electricity during the day.<br />
[11:55 AM] albertlr Landar: about the only time it does not is if it is cloudy.<br />
[11:55 AM] Prince Amor: wish could get those going<br />
[11:55 AM] Prince Amor: just need the big musk batteries<br />
[11:55 AM] albertlr Landar: I would say my Energy costs have been cut in half now.<br />
[11:55 AM] Neovo Geesink: Splitted te Standards and the VARs across 2 servers.<br />
[11:55 AM] albertlr Landar: I have one of them.<br />
[11:56 AM] albertlr Landar: And it does kick in when there is a power outage during the day.<br />
[11:56 AM] albertlr Landar: But only last for maybe 2 1/2 hours<br />
[11:56 AM] Prince Amor: think that is the future with it<br />
[11:56 AM] albertlr Landar: Before it discharges.<br />
[11:56 AM] Prince Amor: ok i need to run<br />
[11:56 AM] Prince Amor: and get going<br />
[11:56 AM] Prince Amor: appreciate the meeting<br />
[11:56 AM] Jeff Hall is Offline<br />
[11:56 AM] Prince Amor: will try to see you all next time<br />
[11:56 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-)<br />
[11:57 AM] albertlr Landar: Ok well glad to see you take care, and hopefully your crashes will be few going forward.<br />
[11:57 AM] Prince Amor: yes same to you!<br />
[11:57 AM] Prince Amor: :-)<br />
[11:58 AM] albertlr Landar: Well Neovo I can report that we have made $19.27 on our funds in the Money Market so far this year.<br />
[11:58 AM] Neovo Geesink: Sadly for Prince, It is not always possible to set the Teleporters up close to the Landing zone... The Geometry of Lbsa, and its history does not lend it for that.<br />
[11:58 AM] Neovo Geesink: Nice! That's at least something.<br />
[11:58 AM] albertlr Landar: yea, you have to got with what you have there.<br />
[11:58 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-)<br />
[11:59 AM] Neovo Geesink: Unless I have Paela and Dan hanging at my throat..<br />
[11:59 AM] albertlr Landar: yea good luck<br />
[11:59 AM] Neovo Geesink: :-D<br />
[12:00 PM] albertlr Landar: I told Dan that we need to start moving funds back and forth with our account at Truist or else they flag it as dormant.<br />
[12:00 PM] albertlr Landar: So have to keep on top of that.<br />
[12:01 PM] albertlr Landar: Well thanks for coming got to go feed dogs and myself.<br />
[12:01 PM] Neovo Geesink: Oei... Thats indeed a thing to keep in mind..<br />
[12:01 PM] albertlr Landar: Will post this over in wiki soon.<br />
[12:01 PM] Neovo Geesink: :-) Till next meeting.<br />
[12:01 PM] albertlr Landar: Thanks for everything.<br />
[12:01 PM] albertlr Landar: Take care.</div>Osgridadmin