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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Saturday Q&amp;amp;A for September 14th, 2024&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;  [10:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Ricky&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:53 AM]  Ricky Fournier: &amp;#039;ello&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:53 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I haven&amp;#039;t been to one of these so thought I&amp;#039;d stop in!&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:53 AM]  Ricky Fournier: *Haven&amp;#039;t been to one of these for a while&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink is Online&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:54 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Finally resolved most of these problems only to encounter more today.    LOL&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: well we cut it back to once a month now., if I can just remember 2nd sat of each month.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:54 AM]  Ricky Fournier: blankety-blank-blank PBR&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello ALbertlr and Ricky&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Hello Neovo, long time no see&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: I got the right date this week.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oh? I am almost daily online...&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep. :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:56 AM]  Ricky Fournier: now, that&amp;#039;s a deep subject&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: I just got my new LG Ultra Wide Monitor, 38&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: Yea it is a wide monitor&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: Still getting use to it&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:56 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I have two 24&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: Its actually the second one, first was damaged. Apparently some one dropped it and had a big Rainbow Verticle Traiagle in the center&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I have 1 23&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh on my other other  I have two 32&amp;quot; dell.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: I may actually have to start using that for OSgrid as they views are bigger on it.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:57 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Ouch!   I hope they diddn&amp;#039;t give you a hard time replacing it.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: just took a week&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: only bummer is I had already packed it up to return, and they asked me to take a picture of it.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: So had to unpack and set it up again.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:58 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Yeah, so now you have to pay to dispose of it, eh!&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: Only think I notice about it. is it seems rather hot on top.&lt;br /&gt;
  [10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: i think it because it also servers as a usb hub.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: But the refresj rate os 144 hz&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I had 2 on the linux box, but it&amp;#039;s dying so I got a nice mac mini.  Now one is on each.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  Neovo Geesink: USB hubs do not produce that much heat... It is more the Backlight, or the OLED panel if it is an Oled.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: so should be good for a games.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea, probably OLED&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: its LG&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: they started that.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:00 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Yes, it&amp;#039;ll be ahead of the computer!   lol&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:01 AM]  Neovo Geesink: If Blacks are really black from every viewable angle, It is inded (o)led Otherwise it is Lcd.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:01 AM]  albertlr Landar: still trying to work using multiple displays with it.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:01 AM]  albertlr Landar: Its curved also.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:01 AM]  Ricky Fournier: THis week I discovered that you cannot have a 3x3 touch a 5x5 or you screw them both up.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: I have a very wide view of OSgrid now.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:02 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Both of mine are curved.  I love it!  More natural viewing.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:02 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: hum would not be surprised.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: I have 4 5X5 next to each other, and they seem to work ok.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:03 AM]  Ricky Fournier: They are the same size.   The problem seems to be disparate sizes.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: might want to mention that to UBit.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: I have never encounter that because always worked with the same size.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:04 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I learned more about server config this week with the Boss and Unadecal&amp;#039;s help.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:04 AM]  albertlr Landar: I also had problems when other people tried to put theirs next to mine, so I moved way out in the other areas with my regions.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:04 AM]  Ricky Fournier: If you don&amp;#039;t learn something new every day you&amp;#039;re dead.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:05 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Yeah, I&amp;#039;m kind of far out myself.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:05 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sure.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:05 AM]  albertlr Landar: very true&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:05 AM]  Ricky Fournier: The smaller one is my sandbox so can be away from the other.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: The last report from Hypergrid Business shows our size is still the largest.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2024/08/opensim-usage-stats-down-as-summer-comes-to-a-close/&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:06 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I have a third that&amp;#039;s &amp;quot;just for now&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:06 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Nice.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:06 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Nice!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: But attendance is second to Wolf Grid.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:07 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Usage stats are always down over the summer.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:07 AM]  albertlr Landar: Also we have had problems apparently since the first of the year with subscriptions.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:07 AM]  albertlr Landar: They are down about $300 a month.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:07 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I wondered because  of the notice.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: So we are going to have to ask people to either consider subscribing to support Osgrid during the Fundraiser or increase their monthly donations by what they can.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:08 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hopefully the Fundraiser will iron the imbalance out.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: Wel we are ok right now in paypal because I moved some funds we raised in the past to help it out.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:09 AM]  albertlr Landar: But to keep us health financially we need say 30 more peopel subscribing by $10 a month.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:09 AM]  albertlr Landar: Or more.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:09 AM]  albertlr Landar: Fundraiser is at the end of this month&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:10 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:10 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Last week.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:10 AM]  albertlr Landar: 23rd to 29th&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  Neovo Geesink: We have info-boards on all PLaza&amp;#039;s and it is listed in the Events Teleporters.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: Thats great.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: now that I have my computers more stable I can get back on line more.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Unfortunately I don&amp;#039;t have anything suitable under the guidelines to contribute to the auction.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: on thats ok.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:11 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Is there an ETA for the annual Membership meeting?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  inanna beaumont is Online&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: I just don&amp;#039;t have time this year myself.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: Unless I can locate some old thing I had made before.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I am friends with Caro and she was asking me AT LEAST once a day.  lol&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-D&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  Paela Argus is Online&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: My things don&amp;#039;t seem to generate many donations unfortunately.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:12 AM]  Ricky Fournier: She&amp;#039;s SUCH a cool lady!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:13 AM]  albertlr Landar: She is a blessing to our campaign and OSgrid.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:13 AM]  Neovo Geesink: If Caro tosses the towel, we do have a situation indeed...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:13 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Absolutely&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Prince&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Robbie&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: hello how goes it?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Ricky Fournier: What a great avie!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: Danger, Danger, Danger Will Robinson&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: everyone says that&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Just about the financial issue, and the luck to have Caro in this Grid.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: yes did it get better&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: put out some please&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: pleas&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Aussie obviously works hard to keep the entertainment going as well.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: yes he does&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  Neovo Geesink: He sure does, albeit in yet another ALT of him...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Or three.   rotfl&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar whispers: I&amp;#039;ve been watching some of those other popular games like&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: or six&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: Mindcraft and Robox&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:16 AM]  albertlr Landar: I really don&amp;#039;t get the reason people play them when ones like Opensim are available for free.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:16 AM]  Prince Amor: well sl too far as that goes&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:16 AM]  Ricky Fournier: My SL yearly is due next month.   sigh&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I also do not understand that... A friend of my is in IMVU, but pays a LOT...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: and we can bring anything in here for free&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Ricky Fournier: SL and OSGrid are different for me.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  albertlr Landar: they could do everything in opensim with a little effort and have much better graphics and experiences.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: yes did that for a while too&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Ricky Fournier: SL is more social.  OSG is more geek and what can I build today.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: I think it is just the consumer ethic predominates&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: why learn or do anything yourself&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: if you can buy it&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:18 AM]  albertlr Landar: well I think the growth of Outworldz users seems to be good.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:18 AM]  albertlr Landar: lots of people doing their own things.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:18 AM]  Prince Amor: long as it doesn&amp;#039;t crash&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:18 AM]  Prince Amor: and burn too often&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:18 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:18 AM]  Prince Amor: seems to be doing alright at moment&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: I get scared to upgrade though&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Lately I do see quite an increase in HG Visitors, so I think that someday they will make an Account here in OSGrid.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: well yes&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: if the grid they are running outworldz&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: well ends up not working well&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: they come back to osgrid&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Not everyone has the ability to have their own server.   I was a server geek many years ago, but have forgotten more than I  remember.  But I make it work with help.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  albertlr Landar: What about the problems with Firestorm&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  albertlr Landar: any improvements&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: not really&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: still crash often&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:19 AM]  Prince Amor: need new one&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: not good&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: hear betas are in the same state&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I am currently on the PBR, but it s*#ks&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Neovo Geesink: ? I do not know... The latest Obtainable version still has that light balancing issue...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: heard there is a new viewer in sl though&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Works well on SL, but poorly on here.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: altaviewer or something like that&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: oh&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: but it is not compatible here they said&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: but they did say it is more stable&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: so not official but an off shoot&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: right&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Ricky Fournier: New stuff aplenty on SL, such as a new voice.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:20 AM]  Prince Amor: and alchemy has pbr in sl also&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: yes heard that too&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: though the old is still working here&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Neovo Geesink: It does not discriminate Full-bright versus Non-Full-bright in all solar angles, and has lost the balance completely with that.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I hate alchemy.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: i do also&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: miss the copy and paste&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: in edit&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: way too much&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: there are workarounds but&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: that is what stops me from using it&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:21 AM]  Prince Amor: and well they have not released pbr version for osgrid yet&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Everyone involved in that project jumped the gun.  It was NOT ready.    IMHO, at best it&amp;#039;s alpha.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: unloader is much better though&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: is that right&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Yes they have, I am on it.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Putri SoloSinger is Online&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: I only peek in here and there&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: oh you have a link?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: I have not checked in a month or so&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  albertlr Landar: I&amp;#039;ve not been on SL for a good while, will have to check in to see whats up there.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Firestorm 7.1.9 (74745) Jun 20 2024 10:27:08 (64bit / SSE2) (Firestorm-Releasex64) with OpenSimulator support&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: they say firestorm crashes like crazy&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: I maintain the Embassy for Osgrid over there, but that is all.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  Ricky Fournier: It does.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: oh i thought you meant alchemy&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Well, on here.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: So the June one is the best to us e for now.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  Neovo Geesink: That one is no-go for me... Tested that 2 weeks ago.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: which would you recommend the one on the Download page.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: that is only one available at moment&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: there are betas&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: dan and foxx might have access&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: but that is about it&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: they said they are very unstable&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: not wanting to share the link&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I&amp;#039;m going back to pre-PBR version later today.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Ricky Fournier: You&amp;#039;ll notice I have not recommended it or shared the link.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: I am trying to decide if this region is on newest build?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/download.php&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I am aready reverted to 6.6.17.70368&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  albertlr Landar: it should be&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  Ricky Fournier: System water looks HORRIBLE.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  Prince Amor: a different simulator version.&lt;br /&gt;
  Current simulator: OpenSim 0.9.3.0 Nessie Dev 8a56d44d9b: 2024-09-03 23:55:32 +0100 (X64/Unix/DotNet)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  Prince Amor: nope&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:25 AM]  Prince Amor: is prepbr&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: noticed pretty much right off&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: came from lbsa&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: which is june&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: wait&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: maybe&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I created my sims again in like May or June.  I have the latest from that time.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:26 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Ibsa is PBR I believ.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well the one from June is the latest.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I had let them drop for a couple of years.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yes, There is a mirror in the toilet, and a PBR test bottle in one of the couch corners.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had to rebuild my regions because my server on OVH crashed because of a Windows update.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: Current simulator: OpenSim 0.9.3.0 Nessie Dev 0d1b14c78f: 2024-03-31 00:44:50 +0000 (X64/Unix/DotNet)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: OUGH. :-(&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: no thats it&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  albertlr Landar: Fortunately I had backups on my local computer.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: is from march&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  Prince Amor: think that is prepbr build&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I need to move my oars to local as well.  I&amp;#039;m behind on that.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  Prince Amor: lbsa is 9&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  Prince Amor: this month even&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  albertlr Landar: I understand that from Dan that MS did a recent update to Windows that would increase the AMD CPU usage.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  Prince Amor: i have mine on junes&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I run automated daily OAR backup and manual transferring the OARs to external drive monthly..&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:28 AM]  albertlr Landar: I guess use more of the cores.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  albertlr Landar: I have changed mine to once a week.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  Prince Amor: yes me too&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  albertlr Landar: Because I rarely make changes to my regions.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  Prince Amor: 3 day autobackup for all my people&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  Prince Amor: once a month external&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  Prince Amor: once a quarter to the cloud&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:29 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I sometimes do more than 1  a day if I&amp;#039;ve done a lot.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:30 AM]  albertlr Landar: hope you have the storage for that.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:30 AM]  albertlr Landar: My server ran out of space because I was doing it too much.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:30 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I have a whole server to me on Hertzog.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:31 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oei...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:31 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had it set to over write the older ones but that did not work.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:31 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I have 2 Tb internal, and a 2Tb external drive.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:31 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I got one of those $35/month oldsters that they re-rent.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  Ricky Fournier: A bit more than I can afford just now, but it&amp;#039;s better than what I had last time.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh my servier is on a 258 gb ssd&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  Prince Amor: i notice my dreamgrid&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  Prince Amor: also does not overwright&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  albertlr Landar: so have to watch the storage usage carefully.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  Prince Amor: must be some strange setting&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  Prince Amor: the one that i use for osgrid workds perfect&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:32 AM]  Prince Amor: think neo let me to that&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:33 AM]  Prince Amor: maybe a gui thing&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:33 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Not herzog, Hetzer.   lol&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Herzog is a friend&amp;#039;s name and I get them mixed up.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Hetzner&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I have them locally. No renting.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  albertlr Landar: BTW, if there a way to increase the font size in Singualirty&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  albertlr Landar: or is that a system setting.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  albertlr Landar: Os setting?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:34 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I am not sure that I could do that with my ISP.  I&amp;#039;d also have to spring for a computer.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:35 AM]  Prince Amor: not used it much&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:35 AM]  Prince Amor: think system works&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:35 AM]  Prince Amor: though sometimes words get combined&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:35 AM]  Neovo Geesink: There is a way to increase &amp;quot;UI size&amp;quot; which enlarges the font in Singu. I do not know exactly where in preferences...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:35 AM]  Prince Amor: and there may be a ui scaling in it somewhere same sotrry&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:36 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh found one under chat but it does not seem to work, unless I have a sign off to get it to work.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:36 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I have botched in a legible font for me instead. :-D&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: Ok I found it under graphics&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: Much better now.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: it was straining my eye sight.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Firestorm needs to straighten out the menus and then leave them alone.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Aii...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: I get lost in there menus&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: their&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:39 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I also got pretty darn lost when I switched from Singularity to FS...&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:39 AM]  albertlr Landar: they need to consolidate one topic to a menu item.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:39 AM]  Neovo Geesink: But I had to, since Singularity crashed me everytime when I was in a crowded region.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hum I have not really had problems with Singularity crashing.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: But then you travel to more populared areas&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:40 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I probably have too old material... Albeit that FS does not crash me at all when in crowded regions.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  albertlr Landar: You mean inventory&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  Ricky Fournier is Online&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  albertlr Landar: you are welcome&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  Neovo Geesink: No... Places like Event Plaza.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  Ricky Fournier: A thought just came to mind.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  albertlr Landar: oh so scripts and things there.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:41 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Do you think that it would help if the grid itself had a few sims&amp;#039; worth of land that it rented?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:42 AM]  Neovo Geesink: That is a real PITA when an event is happening... With Singularity, I crash after a certain time there... With FS, No problem.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:42 AM]  albertlr Landar: Also I think that some people that wear a lot of mesh clothing and objects may cause some of that too.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:42 AM]  Ricky Fournier: And CRAZY ao&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:42 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I think that is the curlpit... FS might handle that better.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:42 AM]  albertlr Landar: most probably&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:42 AM]  Ricky Fournier: All of the gestures must cause loading&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:43 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yup.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:43 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I only have any because this is a new avi and I haven&amp;#039;t disabled them yet.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:44 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I do not use AO&amp;#039;s nor do I have fancy Avatars... For what I do here, the Syste Avatar serves me well.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:44 AM]  albertlr Landar: my resolution now on my new monitor is 3840X1600&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:44 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Jeehaw... No wonder that you had to increase the font size.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:44 AM]  Ricky Fournier: That should be plenty of acreage for a lot of apps.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:44 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well you know that Kayaker Magic rewrote the main AO script so that it does not cause lag.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:45 AM]  Ricky Fournier: He&amp;#039;s SUCH a cool guy!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: I wish more people would use it it would solve alot of people the old ones cause.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:45 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Is that the one in Firestorm?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: We should ahvea copy in the Freebe building now, he let me put one there.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:45 AM]  Ricky Fournier: ok&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  albertlr Landar: Not sure what is in Firestorm.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  Ricky Fournier: The script freebit building?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  albertlr Landar: This is to replace the standard one for wearable AO&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  Ricky Fournier: t=e&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  albertlr Landar: I put it out for Sarah to place there.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:46 AM]  albertlr Landar: About two months ago.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: But if you can&amp;#039;t find it I can give you a copy.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:47 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I went there looking for a no-sit elevator script but no luck.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:47 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I know it&amp;#039;s possible because I&amp;#039;ve seen on in use, but he won&amp;#039;t share.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:48 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I think that that would nececcetate that you made the elevator cage physical to move the Avatar with it.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:48 AM]  albertlr Landar: the old one was the ZHAO Anim Ao&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:48 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I have no idea.   As much as I&amp;#039;d absolutely love to learn to script so far it has evaded me.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:49 AM]  Ricky Fournier: The ZHAO has been around for ever&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: you should check with Kyaker Magic about that, he might have one.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: You can buy hsi script on the Khightly Market&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:49 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Ok, I have account there so I can use it easier.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:50 AM]  Ricky Fournier: The AO script, you mean?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: just type in his name and you can see what he has there.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:50 AM]  Ricky Fournier: nods&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:50 AM]  Ricky Fournier: I have him in my list of stored stores.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: I&amp;#039;ve got so many Ao&amp;#039;s in my inventory I can&amp;#039;t find it now, but I will make sure it is in the Freebe building so everyone can access it there.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:51 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Last I spoke to him it was about vehicles not being able to driver over a bridge.  I was quite impressed with his explanation of why it doesn&amp;#039;t work.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: he has really taken the time to script things correctly, even with things that doing usually work here.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:52 AM]  Ricky Fournier: The servers barely know his scripts are running!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: BTW, he is also hosting a region for Arcadia Asylum builds and those under here other names.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:52 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Nice!&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: All for free&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:53 AM]  Ricky Fournier: On here?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: Its on his own server I believe.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:53 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Yes, very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:53 AM]  Ricky Fournier: ok&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: For instance he had all the Scientific Equipment she made working.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: with scripts&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: Very elaborate contraptions, lots of fun stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:54 AM]  Ricky Fournier: For the time period his stuff was awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:55 AM]  Ricky Fournier: And then there was the woman who had the awesome landscaping stuff who took it all off because the asshats kept on her case about giving it away for fre.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: I believe that the region can be found on those listed on Hypergird Business, or by doing a search for Arcadia Asylum Library on the Internet.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:56 AM]  Prince Amor: yes kayaker and even ada&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:56 AM]  Prince Amor: working that&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Does he not have it in Opensimworld? Or is it an SL region?&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  Prince Amor: I think it is on osgrid&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: no its opensim&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: not SL&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  Prince Amor: he runs his own servers too though&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Most of it would not work on SL.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: there is a library on SL but that is not Kayaker&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Ah.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  Prince Amor: please excuse me have to run&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: i was look for a landmark, but unfortunately can&amp;#039;t find it right now.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: Ok will thanks for coming.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: If I find the linsk I will add them to this chat which is now posted in the Wiki for OSgrid.&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:58 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:59 AM]  Ricky Fournier: Thanks Albertir&lt;br /&gt;
  [11:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: So Ricky anything you might like to ask before we go.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: Fundraiser again starts later this month on the 23rd for 7 days.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  Ricky Fournier: Yes, but I&amp;#039;d like to work some more on figuring it out myself.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: ok&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  Ricky Fournier: Half the fun is doing stuff like that.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: thats what I usually do, with lots of google search.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: Just widh they would stop putting paid ads at the top of everyone of them.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:01 PM]  Ricky Fournier: I promised the boss that I won&amp;#039;t trash my sims so bad he has to fix them ever again.&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:01 PM]  inanna beaumont is Online&lt;br /&gt;
  [12:01 PM]  albertlr Landar: Well thanks for coming will see you again soon. Take care&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Osgridadmin</name></author>
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