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		<title>Osgridadmin: Created page with &quot;= Town Hall Meeting log (2010-01-14 UTC) =  &#039;&#039;&#039;[ Note: time in below log are US/Pacific ]&#039;&#039;&#039;  [2010/01/13 16:16]  Dave Coyle: so, smaller group today, but i guess we can get s...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;= Town Hall Meeting log (2010-01-14 UTC) =  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[ Note: time in below log are US/Pacific ]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  [2010/01/13 16:16]  Dave Coyle: so, smaller group today, but i guess we can get s...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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[2010/01/13 16:16]  Dave Coyle: so, smaller group today, but i guess we can get started...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:16]  Key Gruin: Hi Baewyn, WhiteStar&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:16]  Margaret Brunson: Hey Bae&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:16]  dan banner: whitestar&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:16]  Dave Coyle: first, thanks for coming.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:16]  WhiteStar Magic: Evenin Folks&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:16]  Arielle Popstar: hello&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Margaret Brunson: Hi Arielle&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Dave Coyle: in case anyone is new, this is the weekly OSGrid Town Hall meeting&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Dave Coyle: for people to talk about the good and the bad here on the grid&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Arielle Popstar: Hi Margaret&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Dave Coyle: problems they&amp;#039;re having&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Dave Coyle: things that could be improved&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Dave Coyle: things that are great&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:17]  Dave Coyle: i only have one little bit of info to start off...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:18]  Dave Coyle: osgrid recently purchased some new hardware&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:18]  Dave Coyle: to replace the current assets server (which we rent) and to provide a backup server&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:18]  Dave Coyle: ....for assets, the website, the grid services, etc.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:18]  Dave Coyle: that gear is still being configured...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:18]  Dave Coyle: and we haven&amp;#039;t yet talked about deployment plans...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Dave Coyle: but i&amp;#039;d imagine that would probably happen some time in the next two weeks...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Dave Coyle: it&amp;#039;ll involve a few hours of downtime most likely...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor6&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Dave Coyle: while we do a final sync of assets from the old box to the new one...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Static Sprocket: doh, wrong floor&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Dave Coyle: we&amp;#039;ll communicate what&amp;#039;s happening when in advance...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:19]  Arielle Popstar: some down time expected?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Dave Coyle: yes, a few hours&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Arielle Popstar: nod&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Dave Coyle: so just wanted to give you a pre-pre-change heads up&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Dave Coyle: we have 5 million assets now&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Dave Coyle: 200GB&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Dave Coyle: so it takes a bit of time&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:20]  Baewyn Celara: I&amp;#039;d say a day would be a good amount of time ot saty off. Its a large DB.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Shez Oyen: hopefully someone who has figured out how to save IAR&amp;#039;s will clue me in before then&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Dave Coyle: well, most of the assets have already been sync&amp;#039;d&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor4&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Arielle Popstar: will we see a difference in the grid afterwards or is it all about backup?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Dave Coyle: it&amp;#039;s just a matter of copying what&amp;#039;s new between tuesday and whenever we make the switch&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:21]  Dave Coyle: the big difference is we won&amp;#039;t run out of space. :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Dave Coyle: the current assets server has a single 1TB hard drive&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Dave Coyle: the new box has 3x 2TB hard drives&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Dave Coyle: so we have more space + redundancy&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Shez Oyen: whew&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor6&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Arielle Popstar: good for a little while to come&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Dave Coyle: also, assets will be moving about 3,000 miles&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Baewyn Celara: That should do us a while.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor5&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Dave Coyle: but that shouldn&amp;#039;t have a noticble impact&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:22]  Dave Coyle: since you&amp;#039;re sims proxy the assets&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Dave Coyle: and that&amp;#039;s all i have for today.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Dave Coyle: anyone have anything they&amp;#039;d like to discuss?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor3&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Fernando Oliveira: hi&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  dan banner: hi fernando&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Arielle Popstar: hypergrid functionality&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:23]  Shez Oyen: Nope.. nothing here&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Shez Oyen: Hi fernando :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor7&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Dave Coyle: arielle: what about HG?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Fernando Oliveira: what is this meeting for?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Dave Coyle: fernando, this is the weekly residents meeting&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:24]  Dave Coyle: it&amp;#039;s to discuss anything about the grid you want to discuss&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:25]  Arielle Popstar: when can we expect to see more ability to do so&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:25]  Dave Coyle: hi static&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:25]  Dave Coyle: to be honest, i don&amp;#039;t know the current state of HG in opensim.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:25]  Dave Coyle: WhiteStar? you know?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  Widget Whiteberry is Online&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  Dave Coyle: i hear people mention things don&amp;#039;t work, but i don&amp;#039;t know the authoritative answer&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  Dave Coyle: if that&amp;#039;s true, and to what degree&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  Fernando Oliveira: I used HG some time ago&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  Static Sprocket: howdy dave&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  dan banner: it works, sometimes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:26]  Arielle Popstar: HG is not a priority for the OS grid?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:27]  Arielle Popstar: guess we could talk about chat lag ;)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:27]  Dave Coyle: the currently implementation of HG has some limitations&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:27]  Dave Coyle: e.g. it has no security&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:28]  Dave Coyle: work is forthcoming on that&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:28]  Dave Coyle: but there&amp;#039;s some other work in core opensim it depends on first&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:28]  dan banner: makes sense&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:28]  Baewyn Celara: ok&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:29]  WhiteStar Magic: back&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:29]  Dave Coyle: WS, you know the current state of HG in head?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:29]  Dave Coyle: worky or no worky?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:29]  WhiteStar Magic: for the most part it&amp;#039;s working as it has been..&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:29]  WhiteStar Magic: The usual issues of TP&amp;#039;ing to some of the older versions&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:30]  WhiteStar Magic: the 4096 region limit&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:30]  Arielle Popstar: and current versions...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:30]  Dave Coyle nods&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:30]  WhiteStar Magic: 1.5 should be out after teh refactor going on&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:30]  Cilla Teebrook: YAY&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:30]  WhiteStar Magic: it works&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:31]  Arielle Popstar: so 1.5 isnt working at this point?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:31]  WhiteStar Magic: right now ...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:31]  WhiteStar Magic: It&amp;#039;s all waiting on this refactoring to finish&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  WhiteStar Magic: Diva &amp;amp; Melanie have been workin g tirelessly on everuything&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  Fernando Oliveira: hi cilla. nice hair&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  WhiteStar Magic: It&amp;#039;s coming soon&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  Key Gruin: HI Cilla&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  Arielle Popstar: ok, great&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  Cilla Teebrook whispers: hey Key&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:32]  Arielle Popstar: looking forward to it&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:34]  WhiteStar Magic: the latest version seems to be working well&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:34]  Arielle Popstar: just so i have it sorted in my brain....Osgrid dev&amp;#039;s mainly work on grid aspects rather then standalone hypergid functionality?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:34]  Baewyn Celara: Of HyperGrid or OpenSim?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:34]  WhiteStar Magic: .&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:34]  WhiteStar Magic: OpenSim&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:35]  Dave Coyle: there&amp;#039;s some overlap. some osgrid devs are also opensim devs.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:36]  Arielle Popstar: but my questions on those areas shouldnt perhaps be brought up here&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:36]  Dave Coyle: but working on HG, for example, is more something that the opensim developers would focus on&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:36]  Hiro Protagonist is Online&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:36]  Dave Coyle: there&amp;#039;s a weekly opensim dev meeting on tuesdays&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:36]  Dave Coyle: in Wright Plaza&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:36]  Arielle Popstar: way above my head :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor7&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Dave Coyle: hi hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Baewyn Celara: Well my questions were answered. Good night everyone.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Dave Coyle: good night&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor4&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  WhiteStar Magic: Evenin Hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Key Gruin: Hello Hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Dave Coyle: anyone else have something they&amp;#039;d like to discus?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Hiro Protagonist: Hey everbodeh&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:37]  Shez Oyen: I got nuthin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Cilla Teebrook: I&amp;#039;m late so start over..&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Dave Coyle: :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Cilla Teebrook: &amp;#039;-)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Shez Oyen: heh&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Cilla Teebrook: where are the notes posted?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Dave Coyle: i post the logs after each meeting at http://osgrid.org/wiki/TownHallMeeting&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:38]  Cilla Teebrook: thanks&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Key Gruin: how are region owners doing with the new osgrid release? I just upgraded today but haven&amp;#039;t had a chance to check it out much&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Key Gruin: anyone else upgrade yet&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Dave Coyle: i haven&amp;#039;t yet&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Fernando Oliveira: I had two hangouts&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Shez Oyen: Not yet&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  zaphrod zenovka: I&amp;#039;m at 0.6.9&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Arielle Popstar: oh, heard a rumour that Osgrid dev&amp;#039;s are working with Linden Labs ...is there truth to tyhat rumour?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:39]  Dave Coyle: &amp;quot;working with&amp;quot; in what way?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:40]  Hiro Protagonist: we are certainly not antagonistic&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:40]  Dave Coyle: one or two occasionally pop into IRC&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:40]  Arielle Popstar: wasnt specified&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:40]  Hiro Protagonist: the more accurate statement would probably be that linden labs&amp;#039; engineers would like to work more with opensim devs&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:40]  Dave Coyle: there&amp;#039;s no great collaboration if that&amp;#039;s what you&amp;#039;re implying&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:41]  Fernando Oliveira: I have a LL administrator in my land&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:41]  Arielle Popstar: just asking based on what i heard&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:41]  Arielle Popstar: implying nothing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:42]  Hiro Protagonist: if Linden Labs folks showed up saying they had permission to work on opensim, I dont think their contributions would be refused&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:42]  Dave Coyle: yeah, we definitely don&amp;#039;t see any &amp;quot;us vs. them&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:42]  Fernando Oliveira: guy I have to go&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:42]  Shez Oyen: take it easy Fernando&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:42]  Fernando Oliveira: bye for now&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  Cilla Teebrook: see you soon Fernando&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  Dave Coyle: of course, the grids do have different philosophies&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  Dave Coyle: by fernando&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  WhiteStar Magic: Good Night Fernando&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  dan banner: bye fernando&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  Shez Oyen: theirs is money grubbing what&amp;#039;s this one?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  Arielle Popstar: neither talk of S/L opening a door to their walled garden beteween them and Osgrid?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  zaphrod zenovka: garden? snicker&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:43]  Arielle Popstar: :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:44]  Dave Coyle: no&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:44]  Arielle Popstar: ok&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:44]  Dave Coyle: my personal opinion... i&amp;#039;d be very suprised if that ever happened.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:45]  Hiro Protagonist: socially and ideologically speaking, we are the badlands that Philip Linden envisioned in the early days of SL&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:45]  WhiteStar Magic: one could say.... There are some folks that need to be behind walls... :D&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:45]  Arielle Popstar: lol&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:45]  zaphrod zenovka: LOL at WS&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:45]  Key Gruin: heehee&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  zaphrod zenovka: badlands is better than bad gardens&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  Hiro Protagonist: it makes a certain amount of sense to have some walls between us&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  Hiro Protagonist: Zaph, there&amp;#039;s no central authority here as you know&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  Hiro Protagonist: no zoneing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  Hiro Protagonist: no neighborhood association&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  Shez Oyen: lol&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:46]  Hiro Protagonist: you build or rez what you can make or find&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  zaphrod zenovka: I know, trying to find the right place to ask tough tech questions is not so easy yet either&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Hiro Protagonist: it&amp;#039;s very easy - it&amp;#039;s called IRC lol&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  dan banner: yup&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Hiro Protagonist: then there&amp;#039;s teh mailing list at berlios&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Arielle Popstar: thats not easy Hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Shez Oyen: IRc and the forums have worked for me&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Key Gruin: and the forums&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Hiro Protagonist: it&amp;#039;s as easy as falling off a log lol&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  zaphrod zenovka: You can check region ZComms... I&amp;#039;m down with building and roll your own... is IRC really active?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Hiro Protagonist: install xchat&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Cilla Teebrook: should ppl be paranoid about the transfer of full perms as well .. in regards of them policing transfers?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Hiro Protagonist: I practically live ther&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  Arielle Popstar: requiresthe same answer to every one that comes through with the same issue&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:47]  zaphrod zenovka: I&amp;#039;ll see you there&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:48]  Hiro Protagonist: That is a question better directed at LL Cilla&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:48]  Shez Oyen: When they stop selling full perm stuff on SL I will save a LOT of money&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:48]  Cilla Teebrook: I&amp;#039;m afraid to touch my silly inventory&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:48]  Shez Oyen: and won&amp;#039;t have any reason to go back there at all.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:48]  Hiro Protagonist: I just avoid visiting that grid as much as possible&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:49]  Hiro Protagonist: not because its bad or it sucks - but because its a different sort of place than I want to be&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:49]  Arielle Popstar: we have the forums....so easy to put common answer to the regular questions there&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:49]  Key Gruin: agreed&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:49]  Cilla Teebrook: I love my personal Not Too HOt neighborhood .. I have many good ppl there.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:49]  WhiteStar Magic: well said Hiro !&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Key Gruin: and people can refer back to those forum posts&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hiro Protagonist: ooh&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hiro Protagonist: dinner time&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Richardus Raymaker is Offline&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hiro Protagonist: see you guys and gals next time :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Shez Oyen: Enjoy Hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Dave Coyle: bye hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  WhiteStar Magic: have a Good One&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Key Gruin: bon appetite&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  zaphrod zenovka: bye hiro&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hiro Protagonist waves&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Agent DetectedHiro Protagonist&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Teleporter Online&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:50]  Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Penthouse&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:51]  Richardus Raymaker is Online&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:51]  Key Gruin changes hats&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Dave Coyle: so unless anyone has any other things to discuss, i&amp;#039;m going to call this meeting adjourned.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Key Gruin: if anyone is wondering about the newspaper&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Dave Coyle: oh, yes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Dave Coyle: newspaper&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Key Gruin: we have a scheduled publication of the first weekend of Gebruary&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Key Gruin: February&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:52]  Dave Coyle: is it going to be in-world? or a website?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:53]  Key Gruin: it will be inworld&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:53]  Dave Coyle: cool&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:53]  Key Gruin: a HUD&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:53]  Key Gruin: available at vending boxes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:53]  Key Gruin: various regions&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:54]  Key Gruin: the first issue will be basically a handout for new arrivals&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:54]  Shez Oyen: that&amp;#039;s a good idea&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:54]  Key Gruin: kind of an orientation&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:55]  zaphrod zenovka: Key, can I sponsor one of the vending boxes?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:55]  Shez Oyen: Seems like a logical place to start&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:55]  Key Gruin: yes of course zap ;)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:55]  zaphrod zenovka: or two even&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:56]  Key Gruin: thanks :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:56]  Dave Coyle: great&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:57]  Dave Coyle: thanks everyone for coming&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:57]  Cilla Teebrook: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:57]  Dave Coyle: as i mentioned, we&amp;#039;ll make more announcements about the coming hardware upgrades&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:57]  Key Gruin: *hehehehe*&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:57]  Dave Coyle: and any downtime that might come with it&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Arielle Popstar: ok Ty Dave&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Key Gruin: Thanks Dave&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Shez Oyen: see you kids later :)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Dave Coyle: thanks eveyone&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Cilla Teebrook: Thank you Dave&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Dave Coyle: have a good night&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Key Gruin: seeya Shez&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  WhiteStar Magic: God Night everyone.. TP Safe;)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Cilla Teebrook: bye WS&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:58]  Cilla Teebrook: hello zap&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:59]  Cilla Teebrook: hey Margaret&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:59]  zaphrod zenovka: Hey Cilla&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:59]  Cilla Teebrook: is there an elevator up to this place from the water landing?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:59]  Key Gruin is Online&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:59]  dan banner: thats where i landed cilla&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 16:59]  dan banner: in the pond&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 17:00]  Dave Coyle: unfortunately i think it&amp;#039;s broken&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 17:00]  Cilla Teebrook: now I&amp;#039;m stuck&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 17:00]  Cilla Teebrook: yikkes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 17:00]  Dave Coyle: let me see about getting that fixed for next week&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2010/01/13 17:00]  Cilla Teebrook: oh Thanks Dave&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Osgridadmin</name></author>
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