TownHallMeetingLog20100107

OSGrid Town Hall meeting log for 2010-01-07 UTC

[ Note: times in the below log are US/Pacific ]

[2010/01/06 16:05] Dave Coyle: so.... happy new year everyone, and thanks for coming. we didn't have this meeting the past two weeks....
[2010/01/06 16:05] Cilla Teebrook: back
[2010/01/06 16:05] iliandra allen: wb
[2010/01/06 16:06] Eryn Galen: wb. Cilla
[2010/01/06 16:06] Tohrment Raynier: wb
[2010/01/06 16:06] Jeeper Shim: wb
[2010/01/06 16:06] Dave Coyle: just a reminder what this is all about... this meeting is essentially a venue for the residents to bring up any issues they'd like to discuss, things about the grid they like or hate, things which need improvement....
[2010/01/06 16:06] Cilla Teebrook: HNY
[2010/01/06 16:06] Dave Coyle: problems they'd like to see addressed, etc....
[2010/01/06 16:06] LeeLee Lamont: Oooh goodie
[2010/01/06 16:06] Prana KrewCheck: I am here to Listen mostly...
[2010/01/06 16:06] Dave Coyle: there's a separate opensim dev meeting in Wright Plaza on tuesdays for development topics, so we tend to save those for that meeting...
[2010/01/06 16:07] Dave Coyle: only thing i have is just to mention the recent inventory issues which hopefully Dr. Melanie sorted for us during yesterday's surgery
[2010/01/06 16:07] LeeLee Lamont: hehe
[2010/01/06 16:07] Dave Coyle: neb posted a news article with more details on that
[2010/01/06 16:08] Dave Coyle: i'll dig up the link in a sec
[2010/01/06 16:08] Dave Coyle: but i don't have any specific items to discuss.... neb, adelle, melanie?
[2010/01/06 16:08] Cilla Teebrook: i want to thank those who helped me work it all out
[2010/01/06 16:08] Nebadon Izumi: http://osgrid.org/news
[2010/01/06 16:08] Dave Coyle: oh, heh, that was easy
[2010/01/06 16:08] Cilla Teebrook: I am finding everyone to be there for me
[2010/01/06 16:08] LeeLee Lamont: I do
[2010/01/06 16:08] Dave Coyle hits the Easy Button
[2010/01/06 16:09] Eryn Galen: lol Dave
[2010/01/06 16:09] Greybeard Thinker: big round of thanks to the devs who worked like dogs to fix the not so ROBUST servers.
[2010/01/06 16:09] Cilla Teebrook: app
[2010/01/06 16:09] Eryn Galen: +0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+
[2010/01/06 16:09] Eryn Galen: +0+ +0+
[2010/01/06 16:09] Eryn Galen: +0+ WHOOOHOOOOOO +0+
[2010/01/06 16:09] Eryn Galen: +0+ +0+
[2010/01/06 16:09] Eryn Galen: +0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+
[2010/01/06 16:09] Dave Coyle: ok, so we'll open up the floor to you folks
[2010/01/06 16:09] LeeLee Lamont: yay
[2010/01/06 16:09] Cilla Teebrook: that's an applause
[2010/01/06 16:09] Melanie Milland: :)
[2010/01/06 16:09] Prana KrewCheck: yay
[2010/01/06 16:09] LeeLee Lamont: sim borders
[2010/01/06 16:09] Samantha Fuller: yay
[2010/01/06 16:09] LeeLee Lamont: hate them
[2010/01/06 16:09] Greybeard Thinker: and Neb I think this region need a poke in the ribs
[2010/01/06 16:10] Greybeard Thinker: not all rezzing right
[2010/01/06 16:10] Dave Coyle: LeeLee: in what way?
[2010/01/06 16:10] Eryn Galen: same here
[2010/01/06 16:10] Dave Coyle: Greybeard: looks fine to me, fwiw
[2010/01/06 16:10] LeeLee Lamont: can't cross for the longest time
[2010/01/06 16:10] LeeLee Lamont: or crash
[2010/01/06 16:10] Greybeard Thinker: Dave you got funny grey bubble round your face
[2010/01/06 16:10] Arielle Popstar: lots of gray peepz here but was like that at lbsa too
[2010/01/06 16:10] Dave Coyle: leelee: keep in mind that with the exception of the Plaza regions, the regions here are operated by users
[2010/01/06 16:10] Cilla Teebrook: is there a trick to crossing borders?
[2010/01/06 16:10] Greybeard Thinker: chairs not rezzing either
[2010/01/06 16:11] Arielle Popstar: use a megaregion
[2010/01/06 16:11] Shez Oyen: boats not crossing borders is my major beef.
[2010/01/06 16:11] Samantha Fuller: Is it decided that vehicles will have more than 31 prims, that will be nice but complicate the border problems
[2010/01/06 16:11] Dave Coyle: you may have one region hosted in a top notch data center bordering a region hosted on someone's commodore 64 at the end of a piece of string
[2010/01/06 16:11] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17
[2010/01/06 16:11] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor1
[2010/01/06 16:11] Greybeard Thinker: Shez scripts dont cross borders here
[2010/01/06 16:11] Nebadon Izumi: might try a relog
[2010/01/06 16:11] Nebadon Izumi: lower bandwidth
[2010/01/06 16:11] Greybeard Thinker: just came good Neb
[2010/01/06 16:11] Dave Coyle: if you want more room, your best option right now is to run a megaregion
[2010/01/06 16:11] Nebadon Izumi: cool
[2010/01/06 16:12] Greybeard Thinker: maybe it's my ISP
[2010/01/06 16:12] Shez Oyen: you can allow it in the opensim.ini I thought Greybeard
[2010/01/06 16:12] Dave Coyle: then crosses are irrelevant in many ways
[2010/01/06 16:12] Melanie Milland: we should abolish region borders
[2010/01/06 16:12] Shez Oyen: But it's still my main gripe.
[2010/01/06 16:12] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17
[2010/01/06 16:12] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Alpha Quad
[2010/01/06 16:12] Eryn Galen gave you Snapshot : La Plaza Bade - Landing Zone (OS, Bade Plaza (136, 1.
[2010/01/06 16:12] Greybeard Thinker: make the grid one huge Megaregion Mellanie?
[2010/01/06 16:12] Melanie Milland: y not?
[2010/01/06 16:12] LeeLee Lamont: Yay melanie !!!!!!!!! also featured places, I need to know what places are open to the public...and lm that work
[2010/01/06 16:12] Melanie Milland: :)
[2010/01/06 16:12] Cilla Teebrook: it's not new to us anyway.. even on SL we zoom around crossing sims
[2010/01/06 16:13] Shez Oyen: only problem in megaregions is you have to hve same terrain textures in all of them.
[2010/01/06 16:13] LeeLee Lamont: yesssss
[2010/01/06 16:13] Greybeard Thinker: this just dont work like SL and I for one am very glad it doesn't
[2010/01/06 16:13] Adelle Fitzgerald: you dont, Shez
[2010/01/06 16:13] Sisely Sciari: I second that, Greybeard
[2010/01/06 16:13] LeeLee Lamont: I want to travel, see things
[2010/01/06 16:13] Greybeard Thinker: ty Sis
[2010/01/06 16:13] Shez Oyen: I tried loading raws.. stuff changed on reboots
[2010/01/06 16:13] LeeLee Lamont: make it easier please
[2010/01/06 16:13] Dave Coyle: eryn: that bulge is the sculpty sombrero i'm wearing. which your client hasn't finished downloading.
[2010/01/06 16:13] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17
[2010/01/06 16:13] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Alpha Quad
[2010/01/06 16:14] Adelle Fitzgerald: if you apply the terrain via the console and 'change region xxx' for each of them, they will each take a different terrain
[2010/01/06 16:14] Greybeard Thinker: got it now Dave
[2010/01/06 16:14] Eryn Galen: LeeLee: I dont think a lot of regions are closed, so just tp around
[2010/01/06 16:14] Greybeard Thinker: damned Vodafony ISP
[2010/01/06 16:14] Shez Oyen: I did that Adelle
[2010/01/06 16:14] Sisely Sciari: That is what i do, LeeLee.
[2010/01/06 16:14] Eryn Galen: kk Dave
[2010/01/06 16:14] Greybeard Thinker: try doing it my way LeeLee open map, close eyes, double click
[2010/01/06 16:14] Shez Oyen: and on a reboot stuff changed wierdly
[2010/01/06 16:15] Greybeard Thinker: it's fun
[2010/01/06 16:15] Shez Oyen: not what I expected at all.
[2010/01/06 16:15] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17
[2010/01/06 16:15] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor1
[2010/01/06 16:15] Shez Oyen: there is the radio limitation too with megaregions
[2010/01/06 16:15] Eryn Galen: Hi Moni :)
[2010/01/06 16:15] iliandra allen: welcome
[2010/01/06 16:15] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17
[2010/01/06 16:15] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor7
[2010/01/06 16:15] Monerda Skute: hey everbody ;)
[2010/01/06 16:15] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Agent DetectedViscian Axten
[2010/01/06 16:15] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Teleporter Online
[2010/01/06 16:16] Arielle Popstar: Hi Mon
[2010/01/06 16:16] Greybeard Thinker: Hi Skuter
[2010/01/06 16:16] Jeeper Shim: Hi Mon
[2010/01/06 16:16] Eryn Galen: pff, finally I am not sitting on a ball anymore, lol
[2010/01/06 16:16] Tohrment Raynier: Hi Mon
[2010/01/06 16:16] Prana KrewCheck: Moni
[2010/01/06 16:16] Cilla Teebrook: thanks iliaa
[2010/01/06 16:16] Adelle Fitzgerald: Shez, it sounds like a few quirks that just need ironing out on your mega
[2010/01/06 16:16] Shez Oyen: Probably Adelle :) I am very new to this.
[2010/01/06 16:17] Dave Coyle: oh, completely unrelated... just wanted to mention that logs and announcements for this meeting can be found at http://osgrid.org/wiki/TownHallMeeting
[2010/01/06 16:18] Dave Coyle: you can also join the "OSGrid Town Hall Meeting" group to get reminders
[2010/01/06 16:18] Cilla Teebrook: is it not available to add LM to notices?
[2010/01/06 16:18] Eryn Galen: erm, I am on that Dave, didnt get anything tonight though
[2010/01/06 16:18] Dave Coyle: i don't believe attachments to group notices are working presently
[2010/01/06 16:18] Eryn Galen: Hi Richardus
[2010/01/06 16:18] Cilla Teebrook: ok
[2010/01/06 16:18] Samantha Fuller: Just how far from SL are we planing to Extend OS for example could we request extra materials compleat with diferenting impact sounds & impact sprites
[2010/01/06 16:18] Dave Coyle: eryn: hrm. odd. i did send one out about 40 mins ago.
[2010/01/06 16:18] Richardus Raymaker: hi eryn. if your on the wrong floor you dot get out
[2010/01/06 16:19] Eryn Galen: yes you can just camm up and sit down Richardus ;-)
[2010/01/06 16:19] Shez Oyen: I got it Dave
[2010/01/06 16:19] Richardus Raymaker: in sl that works.. here a bit harder. hard to find something to sit :)
[2010/01/06 16:19] Dave Coyle: eryn: were you logged in about 40 mins ago?
[2010/01/06 16:19] Shez Oyen: I get a lot of notices from another group I'm on too
[2010/01/06 16:20] Trex Blessed: what would it take to get profile picks to work?
[2010/01/06 16:20] Eryn Galen: yes Dave, I was
[2010/01/06 16:20] Greybeard Thinker: SB11 was acting up just before it crashed that may have stopped messaging
[2010/01/06 16:20] Dave Coyle: eryn: ok, i'll take a look at that later
[2010/01/06 16:20] Richardus Raymaker: i new field in the database ?
[2010/01/06 16:20] Eryn Galen: thanks Dave
[2010/01/06 16:20] Dave Coyle: oh, were you at Sandbox Plaza II?
[2010/01/06 16:20] Shez Oyen: Profile picks would be ace
[2010/01/06 16:20] Greybeard Thinker: yes Eryn and I
[2010/01/06 16:21] LeeLee Lamont: and featued places, with a lm
[2010/01/06 16:21] Dave Coyle: ah, that may be it. it blew up around the same time i sent the message.
[2010/01/06 16:21] Richardus Raymaker: oh profile picks. i made pics :O
[2010/01/06 16:21] Cilla Teebrook: I'd love NOTES to work too
[2010/01/06 16:21] Prana KrewCheck: I vote for profile picks
[2010/01/06 16:21] iliandra allen: they work
[2010/01/06 16:21] Adelle Fitzgerald: i /think/ that picks and interests may be being worked on, but im not 100%, ill try and find out for the next meeting
[2010/01/06 16:21] Greybeard Thinker: profile etc is a Dev thing yes Ned or Dave, Adelle?
[2010/01/06 16:21] Samantha Fuller: And another question realisticly how soon can we expect generic sit on a prim, its an important social tool along with attachments to group notices
[2010/01/06 16:21] Greybeard Thinker: Neb sorry lol.
[2010/01/06 16:21] iliandra allen: you have to hit ok after you put in the pic
[2010/01/06 16:21] Adelle Fitzgerald: it is Greybeard
[2010/01/06 16:21] Melanie Milland: yes it is. and the dev in quesrtions is not here
[2010/01/06 16:21] iliandra allen: at the bottom
[2010/01/06 16:22] Eryn Galen: yes, the sitting is a bit weird atm, hehe
[2010/01/06 16:22] Cilla Teebrook: it looks like it'll work ok iliaaa but then it disappears
[2010/01/06 16:22] Arielle Popstar: what about hypergridding in Osgrid and accessing osgrid from outside accounts like on standalones
[2010/01/06 16:22] Greybeard Thinker: Sam use poseballs with transparency on sit for that.
[2010/01/06 16:22] Richardus Raymaker: notes would be nice to get working.
[2010/01/06 16:22] iliandra allen: is mine in there?
[2010/01/06 16:22] LeeLee Lamont: thanks adelle
[2010/01/06 16:22] Richardus Raymaker: hi adella
[2010/01/06 16:23] Viscian Axten: Loading it now, Illandra.
[2010/01/06 16:23] Cilla Teebrook: nope
[2010/01/06 16:23] iliandra allen: it is for me
[2010/01/06 16:23] Cilla Teebrook: just word loading
[2010/01/06 16:23] Viscian Axten: My profile pic seems to load.
[2010/01/06 16:23] Richardus Raymaker: time to add one.
[2010/01/06 16:23] LeeLee Lamont: is it true Hippo won't be upgraded?
[2010/01/06 16:23] Richardus Raymaker: i would say try imprudence
[2010/01/06 16:24] Prana KrewCheck: now we are talking about profile PICKS not profile pictures right?
[2010/01/06 16:24] Greybeard Thinker: if I can get my hands on the source code it will be
[2010/01/06 16:24] LeeLee Lamont: ok, tried and crashed
[2010/01/06 16:24] Melanie Milland: sadly, that is true
[2010/01/06 16:24] Greybeard Thinker whispers: MeLL?????
[2010/01/06 16:24] Richardus Raymaker: http://imprudenceviewer.org/
[2010/01/06 16:24] LeeLee Lamont: but I guess that's my prob
[2010/01/06 16:24] LeeLee Lamont: ty
[2010/01/06 16:24] Key Gruin: hi everyone
[2010/01/06 16:24] Cilla Teebrook: ii kept crashing on Imprudence too
[2010/01/06 16:24] Melanie Milland: greybeard: I have the latest (yet unreleased) hippo
[2010/01/06 16:24] Cilla Teebrook: hey Key
[2010/01/06 16:24] Eryn Galen: Hi Key
[2010/01/06 16:24] Monerda Skute: hey Key
[2010/01/06 16:24] Richardus Raymaker: uhmm, i know why
[2010/01/06 16:24] Jeeper Shim: Hi Key
[2010/01/06 16:24] Melanie Milland: any dev who'd like to step into mana's shoes would be very welcome
[2010/01/06 16:24] Key Gruin: late
[2010/01/06 16:25] Shez Oyen: Hi Key ;)
[2010/01/06 16:25] Key Gruin: ;)
[2010/01/06 16:25] LeeLee Lamont: hey Key
[2010/01/06 16:25] Prana KrewCheck: Key
[2010/01/06 16:25] Greybeard Thinker: I've tried to get the code but svn don't like me or maybe it's Toroise svn it doesn't like
[2010/01/06 16:25] Key Gruin looks for a spot to sit without sitting on someone
[2010/01/06 16:25] LeeLee Lamont: ok will we have a viewer that is stable and for OSG?
[2010/01/06 16:25] Viscian Axten pats her lap.
[2010/01/06 16:25] Melanie Milland: greybeard: the code in SVN is not current even if you had it
[2010/01/06 16:25] Key Gruin: lol ;)
[2010/01/06 16:26] Melanie Milland: contact me on IRC or inworld later
[2010/01/06 16:26] Greybeard Thinker: Hippo even old as it is is still the most stable for me at least
[2010/01/06 16:26] Melanie Milland: if you're serious, we can get to an understanding
[2010/01/06 16:26] LeeLee Lamont: ok
[2010/01/06 16:26] LeeLee Lamont: hippo it is
[2010/01/06 16:26] Dave Coyle: arielle: to be honest i don't recall the current state of affairs with HG.
[2010/01/06 16:26] Greybeard Thinker: ty Mel
[2010/01/06 16:26] Shez Oyen: I'm using emerald and loving it.
[2010/01/06 16:26] Eryn Galen: WhiteStar did say something like HG2.0 was not far off
[2010/01/06 16:26] LeeLee Lamont: I am also
[2010/01/06 16:27] Arielle Popstar: cant get around much with hypergridding in Osgrid
[2010/01/06 16:27] Greybeard Thinker: Emerald seems to be getting people banned from SL at the moment
[2010/01/06 16:27] LeeLee Lamont: but my invo gets messed and I bend, my avi
[2010/01/06 16:27] Melanie Milland: HG1.5
[2010/01/06 16:27] Arielle Popstar: only a few areas where one can hyper to or from
[2010/01/06 16:27] Melanie Milland: ask on tuesday
[2010/01/06 16:27] Shez Oyen: I haven't heard anything about Emerald banning but I am not on SL much lately.
[2010/01/06 16:28] Eryn Galen: I know about Meerkat though
[2010/01/06 16:28] Melanie Milland: i would hope so
[2010/01/06 16:28] Greybeard Thinker: seems Emerald is the reason a friend here was account terminated by Linden Labs
[2010/01/06 16:28] Arielle Popstar: ask what on Tuesday...hyper or viewer?
[2010/01/06 16:28] Melanie Milland: it's an atrocious hacked up griefer viewer
[2010/01/06 16:28] Melanie Milland: arielle, HG 1.5
[2010/01/06 16:29] Shez Oyen: what is a griefer viewer?
[2010/01/06 16:29] Arielle Popstar: i am wondering why it is not enabled at LBSA Melanie
[2010/01/06 16:29] Melanie Milland: a viewer that allows things like involuntarily animating other avatars, taking content
[2010/01/06 16:29] Cilla Teebrook: that is scarey you guys... what means to we have to protect ourselves from being banned from SL?
[2010/01/06 16:29] Arielle Popstar: Havent found emerald capable of that
[2010/01/06 16:29] iliandra allen: don;t wiggle, cilla
[2010/01/06 16:29] Melanie Milland: simple. don't use cryolife or emerald
[2010/01/06 16:29] Richardus Raymaker: copy the llkdu.dll from a second life viewer and put that in the imprudence directory
[2010/01/06 16:29] Shez Oyen: which viewer does that? making other people do things without asking is hosed
[2010/01/06 16:29] Dave Coyle: this isn't SL
[2010/01/06 16:30] Arielle Popstar: in fact the emerald devs are working with LL according to reports
[2010/01/06 16:30] Samantha Fuller: The regular Emrald is Ok but greifer hackers made their version and emerald got some of the blame
[2010/01/06 16:30] Richardus Raymaker: possible there's a bug in openjpeg and this is a replacement. sicne then my viewer dont crash
[2010/01/06 16:30] Greybeard Thinker: like Neil Life Viewer and Cryoviewer
[2010/01/06 16:30] Melanie Milland: samantha: emerald's dev team consists of known griefers
[2010/01/06 16:30] Shez Oyen: lol
[2010/01/06 16:30] Melanie Milland: they are playing nice
[2010/01/06 16:30] Greybeard Thinker: there you go Arielle
[2010/01/06 16:31] Melanie Milland: but they exploit things in SL LL doesn't like
[2010/01/06 16:31] Melanie Milland: expect more bans for emerald use
[2010/01/06 16:31] Richardus Raymaker: only imprudence have for me no audio with video
[2010/01/06 16:31] Shez Oyen: tishtosh
[2010/01/06 16:31] Arielle Popstar: still better then Hippo Grey
[2010/01/06 16:31] Greybeard Thinker: and for Meerkat users too.
[2010/01/06 16:31] Shez Oyen: that rumor has been flying around for ages
[2010/01/06 16:31] Richardus Raymaker: i use emerald to in sl. it works just nicer. and more preciese
[2010/01/06 16:31] Greybeard Thinker: at least the Imprudence devs are working with us here
[2010/01/06 16:31] Trex Blessed: any status on orientation island?
[2010/01/06 16:31] Shez Oyen: yes and has so much built in like radar and the AO
[2010/01/06 16:32] Prana KrewCheck: folks get banned for MISuse... not use
[2010/01/06 16:32] Melanie Milland: at some point, the tool becomes the intent
[2010/01/06 16:32] Arielle Popstar: good point Prana
[2010/01/06 16:32] Melanie Milland: and the ban is blanket
[2010/01/06 16:32] Melanie Milland: like cryolife
[2010/01/06 16:32] Dave Coyle: trex: warin's current answer is it'll be done when it's ready. unfortunately his RL work and other stuff are taking up a lot of his time.
[2010/01/06 16:32] Shez Oyen: never heard of cryolife
[2010/01/06 16:32] Melanie Milland: you get banned even if you use cryolife as a normal viewer
[2010/01/06 16:32] Richardus Raymaker: never heared about MISuse
[2010/01/06 16:32] Dave Coyle: so he still has a bunch more texturing to do
[2010/01/06 16:32] Dave Coyle: and scripting
[2010/01/06 16:32] LeeLee Lamont: ok, stupid, but why the hair issue
[2010/01/06 16:32] Dave Coyle: but it looks pretty sweet so far
[2010/01/06 16:32] Trex Blessed: he looking for help?
[2010/01/06 16:33] LeeLee Lamont: a girl needs her hair
[2010/01/06 16:33] Cilla Teebrook: giggle
[2010/01/06 16:33] Prana KrewCheck: hahaah
[2010/01/06 16:33] Cilla Teebrook: you look cute anyway LLL
[2010/01/06 16:33] Shez Oyen: lot's of hair!
[2010/01/06 16:33] Richardus Raymaker: nothing heared about LL bans people because the use different (better) viewer)
[2010/01/06 16:33] LeeLee Lamont: lol
[2010/01/06 16:33] Dave Coyle: trex: he might be. ask him. if you're in IRC at all, he's 'Godfrey' there
[2010/01/06 16:34] Shez Oyen: I montior the Emerald IRC and their would be much tooth gnashing if folks were getting banned.
[2010/01/06 16:34] Trex Blessed: i think more than a few would be willing to help
[2010/01/06 16:34] Tohrment Raynier: lol hair to banned viewer uses
[2010/01/06 16:34] Tohrment Raynier: hmm
[2010/01/06 16:34] LeeLee Lamont: I know what is important
[2010/01/06 16:34] LeeLee Lamont: lol
[2010/01/06 16:34] Dave Coyle: trex: and i'll ask him next time i see him
[2010/01/06 16:34] Arielle Popstar: is there a reason why the emerald IRC cannot access the #Osgrid channel?>
[2010/01/06 16:34] Arielle Popstar: or is that just me?
[2010/01/06 16:35] Shez Oyen: because it's on a diff server?
[2010/01/06 16:35] Shez Oyen: I can use both from emerald
[2010/01/06 16:35] Shez Oyen: lol
[2010/01/06 16:35] Arielle Popstar: if it configured proper
[2010/01/06 16:35] Shez Oyen: IRC is built in
[2010/01/06 16:35] Tohrment Raynier: <--- hair I understand... a lot of this other stuff goes over my .... hair
[2010/01/06 16:35] Dave Coyle: can you get to other freenode channels? like #defocus ?
[2010/01/06 16:35] LeeLee Lamont: :)
[2010/01/06 16:35] Arielle Popstar: i can access others yes
[2010/01/06 16:35] Shez Oyen: you can get any of them you want I would magine
[2010/01/06 16:35] Arielle Popstar: jit hangs on the #osgrid
[2010/01/06 16:36] Tohrment Raynier: I lilke emerald and haen't heard anything about banning
[2010/01/06 16:36] Shez Oyen: works ace for me.. maybe the port is wrong?
[2010/01/06 16:36] Richardus Raymaker: here the same, and i know many others use it to. simple because its better
[2010/01/06 16:36] Arielle Popstar: you have Osgrid working in emerald?
[2010/01/06 16:36] Tohrment Raynier: it IS better... more options
[2010/01/06 16:36] Prana KrewCheck: I vote Emerald
[2010/01/06 16:36] Dave Coyle: arielle: can you get to #osgrid from the same machine using a more traditional IRC client?
[2010/01/06 16:36] Arielle Popstar: yes
[2010/01/06 16:37] Arielle Popstar: np at all then
[2010/01/06 16:37] Cilla Teebrook: is there a place on the website that list all teh LM to the shops, etc??
[2010/01/06 16:37] Tohrment Raynier: Meerkat crashes constantly
[2010/01/06 16:37] Shez Oyen: hmm
[2010/01/06 16:37] Richardus Raymaker: emerald for sl, imprudence for osgrid. then there's no conflict with passwords to
[2010/01/06 16:37] Tohrment Raynier: snowglobe is good but... haven't used it here
[2010/01/06 16:37] Dave Coyle: cilla: there is not. there is a notecard you can get from one of the signs in Lbsa Plaza.
[2010/01/06 16:37] Dave Coyle: but i don't know how up-to-date that is
[2010/01/06 16:37] Greybeard Thinker: Snowglobe is the foundation of all the griefer viewers liuke Emerald etc
[2010/01/06 16:37] Tohrment Raynier: I want to try Imprudence
[2010/01/06 16:37] Dave Coyle: that would be a great thing to have if someone wanted to collect landmarks
[2010/01/06 16:37] Cilla Teebrook: have that one .. thank you
[2010/01/06 16:37] Greybeard Thinker: Tohr use version 1.2.1
[2010/01/06 16:38] Greybeard Thinker: 1.3 is test onlyu right now
[2010/01/06 16:38] LeeLee Lamont: ty Ili
[2010/01/06 16:38] iliandra allen: yw
[2010/01/06 16:38] Richardus Raymaker: i use Imprudence 1.2.0 with the sl dll
[2010/01/06 16:38] Prana KrewCheck: really you can do that?
[2010/01/06 16:38] Tohrment Raynier: kk
[2010/01/06 16:38] Tohrment Raynier: thanks Grey
[2010/01/06 16:38] Cilla Teebrook: who would I contact to help with the LM page?
[2010/01/06 16:39] Adelle Fitzgerald: whats the 'LM page'?
[2010/01/06 16:39] Dave Coyle: if you wanted it on the web, you could create one at http://osgrid.org/wiki
[2010/01/06 16:39] Dave Coyle: or a thread at http://osgrid.org/forums
[2010/01/06 16:39] Tohrment Raynier: Cilla is lilke the bloodhound of LMs and finding anything useful
[2010/01/06 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: ahhh
[2010/01/06 16:40] Cilla Teebrook: web page for a list of LM
[2010/01/06 16:40] LeeLee Lamont: we need that
[2010/01/06 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: cool
[2010/01/06 16:40] Dave Coyle: feel free to create one
[2010/01/06 16:40] Tohrment Raynier: you bet we do
[2010/01/06 16:40] Nebadon Izumi: sorry catching up on the last few minutes my phone rang
[2010/01/06 16:40] Shez Oyen: absolutely
[2010/01/06 16:40] Cilla Teebrook: who do I send info too?
[2010/01/06 16:40] Trex Blessed: can use the http webpage embed to use it in here, couldn't you?
[2010/01/06 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: speak to Dorothea Lundquist, i think she has a fairly recent list of freebie places
[2010/01/06 16:40] Cilla Teebrook: ok
[2010/01/06 16:40] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: -17
[2010/01/06 16:40] Hoffman Effect Teleporter: Floor5
[2010/01/06 16:41] Adelle Fitzgerald: and there is a notecard in the new users sign at Lbsa Plaza
[2010/01/06 16:41] Eryn Galen: she does, and of ppl offering land
[2010/01/06 16:41] Key Gruin: I did see Doro was collecting a list of LMs
[2010/01/06 16:41] Eryn Galen: all on her region Love and Peace
[2010/01/06 16:41] Richardus Raymaker: i have a notecard with some
[2010/01/06 16:41] Cilla Teebrook: not complete though
[2010/01/06 16:41] LeeLee Lamont: and not jsut free place, interesting places
[2010/01/06 16:41] Richardus Raymaker: who wants that notecard ?
[2010/01/06 16:41] Cilla Teebrook: yes
[2010/01/06 16:41] Viscian Axten: cilla: great idea!
[2010/01/06 16:41] Cilla Teebrook: ok Richard
[2010/01/06 16:41] Adelle Fitzgerald: maybe it would be nice to someone to make a list on the osgrid wiki, and people can maintain it?
[2010/01/06 16:41] Prana KrewCheck: I do
[2010/01/06 16:41] Monerda Skute: hey WhiteStar !
[2010/01/06 16:41] Viscian Axten: i'd like a copy Richardus
[2010/01/06 16:42] Cilla Teebrook: wehre ppl can add to it
[2010/01/06 16:42] iliandra allen: me too, please
[2010/01/06 16:42] LeeLee Lamont: I would also Richard
[2010/01/06 16:42] iliandra allen: ty
[2010/01/06 16:42] Tohrment Raynier: that would be nice.. to add to it
[2010/01/06 16:42] Adelle Fitzgerald: though it would need maintaining, LM's can go out-of-date fairly quickly here
[2010/01/06 16:42] WhiteStar Magic: evening fpolks
[2010/01/06 16:42] LeeLee Lamont: us
[2010/01/06 16:42] Tohrment Raynier: I'd like a copy also please
[2010/01/06 16:42] LeeLee Lamont: sorrry
[2010/01/06 16:42] Cilla Teebrook: yes true
[2010/01/06 16:42] Viscian Axten: very nice list, thank you!
[2010/01/06 16:42] Cilla Teebrook: thank you Richard
[2010/01/06 16:42] Richardus Raymaker: its from doro btw
[2010/01/06 16:43] Sisely Sciari: Can you drop one my way, Richardus?
[2010/01/06 16:43] Cilla Teebrook: hugs to Doro
[2010/01/06 16:43] Tohrment Raynier: <---- hand in the air for list
[2010/01/06 16:43] Richardus Raymaker gave you Freebie Places.
[2010/01/06 16:43] Sisely Sciari: Thanks!
[2010/01/06 16:43] Cilla Teebrook: Hello WhiteStar
[2010/01/06 16:43] Simulator Version shouts: OpenSim 0.6.9 (Dev) 9c4e6f0 2009-12-31 06:41:10 +0000 (Unix/Mono)
[2010/01/06 16:43] Key Gruin: evening WhiteStar
[2010/01/06 16:43] Greybeard Thinker: Hi whiteStar
[2010/01/06 16:43] WhiteStar Magic: Heya Cilla
[2010/01/06 16:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: hi WS
[2010/01/06 16:43] Tohrment Raynier: Thank you Richard
[2010/01/06 16:43] WhiteStar Magic: GT Adelle and Gang
[2010/01/06 16:43] Prana KrewCheck: so does http://www.osgrid.org/elgg/pg/utilities/whosonline come from the OSGRID database...
[2010/01/06 16:43] Richardus Raymaker: nobody missed ?
[2010/01/06 16:44] LeeLee Lamont: me Richard
[2010/01/06 16:44] LeeLee Lamont: please
[2010/01/06 16:44] Greybeard Thinker: missed?
[2010/01/06 16:44] Prana KrewCheck: can you add a "stores in " field?
[2010/01/06 16:44] Greybeard Thinker: what did I just miss?
[2010/01/06 16:44] LeeLee Lamont: ty
[2010/01/06 16:44] Dave Coyle: prana: yes, but it's not 100% accurate
[2010/01/06 16:44] Prana KrewCheck: I want one
[2010/01/06 16:44] Richardus Raymaker: freebies places notecard
[2010/01/06 16:44] Dave Coyle: e.g. i believe it still shows avs which crashed as logged in
[2010/01/06 16:44] Prana KrewCheck: thanks Richardys
[2010/01/06 16:45] Tohrment Raynier: does anyone have issues with friends being logged in but not showing as logged in on list?
[2010/01/06 16:45] Tohrment Raynier: I have that problem a lot
[2010/01/06 16:45] Melanie Milland: yes
[2010/01/06 16:45] Prana KrewCheck: yes
[2010/01/06 16:45] Viscian Axten: Prana: seems to, i'm on that list :p
[2010/01/06 16:45] LeeLee Lamont: yes, people say they IM me, and that I'm online, when I'm not online at all
[2010/01/06 16:45] Key Gruin: it happens when someone crashes
[2010/01/06 16:45] Richardus Raymaker: yes, last time thats normal
[2010/01/06 16:45] Melanie Milland: any friends already online when you log in don't show
[2010/01/06 16:45] Melanie Milland: known issue -> tuesday meeting
[2010/01/06 16:45] LeeLee Lamont: yes
[2010/01/06 16:45] LeeLee Lamont: have to refirend them
[2010/01/06 16:46] LeeLee Lamont: friend
[2010/01/06 16:46] Tohrment Raynier: grrr
[2010/01/06 16:46] Viscian Axten: My friends list is bugged, it shows zero, but I'm so social..
[2010/01/06 16:46] LeeLee Lamont: lol
[2010/01/06 16:46] Tohrment Raynier: lol Viscian
[2010/01/06 16:46] Dave Coyle: key: how;s the newspaper coming along?
[2010/01/06 16:46] WhiteStar Magic: Dunno if anyone is interested... but I have been fielding a lot of queries re Windows Installations for OpenSim. So I pent a good part of the day doing an article on Windows, Firewalls etc...
[2010/01/06 16:46] Shez Oyen: What time are the Tuesday meetings?
[2010/01/06 16:46] Key Gruin: I didn't know you had to refriend someone in that case
[2010/01/06 16:46] WhiteStar Magic: [HOW-TO] Install Step X Step on Windows Platforms + @ http://osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2082
[2010/01/06 16:46] Shez Oyen: Are they open to everyone?
[2010/01/06 16:46] WhiteStar Magic: Any Inputr is welcoem for Fine Tuning it
[2010/01/06 16:47] LeeLee Lamont: it works for me Key
[2010/01/06 16:47] Greybeard Thinker: do you ever rest WS?
[2010/01/06 16:47] Shez Oyen: Good job Whitestar! Kudos!
[2010/01/06 16:47] Dave Coyle: shez: 1900 UTC
[2010/01/06 16:47] Cilla Teebrook: I want to say I realloy appreciate all the work that is put into OSG. I am enjoying myself .. even with all the things that need to be worked on. I feel blessed to be a part of this.
[2010/01/06 16:47] Dave Coyle: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Office_hours
[2010/01/06 16:47] LeeLee Lamont: ditto
[2010/01/06 16:47] Dave Coyle: glad you're enjoying it
[2010/01/06 16:47] Cilla Teebrook: yay
[2010/01/06 16:47] Cilla Teebrook: +++++++++++++++++++++
[2010/01/06 16:47] Cilla Teebrook: * WOOOO HOOOO  !!!! *
[2010/01/06 16:47] Cilla Teebrook: +++++++++++++++++++++
[2010/01/06 16:47] Prana KrewCheck: me too
[2010/01/06 16:48] Cilla Teebrook: giggle
[2010/01/06 16:48] Adelle Fitzgerald: oh, i nearly forgot to mention...
[2010/01/06 16:48] Tohrment Raynier: what they said ;)
[2010/01/06 16:48] Cilla Teebrook: cake?
[2010/01/06 16:48] Adelle Fitzgerald: we opened a new forum about a week ago in the OSgrid forum, Classifieds
[2010/01/06 16:48] Shez Oyen: Yum!
[2010/01/06 16:48] Melanie Milland: let them eat cake?
[2010/01/06 16:48] Cilla Teebrook: oh I saw that Adelle
[2010/01/06 16:48] Cilla Teebrook: wonderufl
[2010/01/06 16:49] Prana KrewCheck: Great ideal Adelle!
[2010/01/06 16:49] Adelle Fitzgerald: its a place where you can advertise your stuff if you want, land, freebies, help, in need of help, etc
[2010/01/06 16:49] LeeLee Lamont: Oh, that's another thing, how long will items and land be free here, I see more and more, items, land for sale?
[2010/01/06 16:49] Tohrment Raynier: oh yea very good idea
[2010/01/06 16:49] Dave Coyle: leelee: it'll always be free if you want to run a sim yourself
[2010/01/06 16:49] WhiteStar Magic: we really need to promo the forums more & more... so many folks don;t even know it exists...
[2010/01/06 16:49] Melanie Milland: items for sale is somewhat difficult
[2010/01/06 16:50] Adelle Fitzgerald: LeeLee, that really depends on who is selling or giving
[2010/01/06 16:50] Melanie Milland: as there are no permissions restructions
[2010/01/06 16:50] Cilla Teebrook: I have invited Antreas Alter from SL who created RealWaves and he is in the process of coming here to share his waves, etc if they will work.
[2010/01/06 16:50] Dave Coyle: if you want someone to manage it for you... that's up to the people/companies that provide that.
[2010/01/06 16:50] Melanie Milland: LAND will be sold
[2010/01/06 16:50] Greybeard Thinker: items for sale should be boycotted
[2010/01/06 16:50] LeeLee Lamont: wow
[2010/01/06 16:50] LeeLee Lamont: realwaves
[2010/01/06 16:50] LeeLee Lamont: yaya
[2010/01/06 16:50] Richardus Raymaker: land for sale thats to explain. items hummm
[2010/01/06 16:50] Monerda Skute: oh very kewl Cilla
[2010/01/06 16:50] Melanie Milland: greybeard, why?
[2010/01/06 16:50] Dave Coyle: cilla: great
[2010/01/06 16:50] LeeLee Lamont: yess, boycotted and land aslo
[2010/01/06 16:50] Adelle Fitzgerald: OSgrid provides some pretty simple homestead parcels for free, as long as they are used, and will continue to for the forseeable
[2010/01/06 16:50] Viscian Axten: Eum, I don't understand how that would work... what/who manages the economy?
[2010/01/06 16:50] Prana KrewCheck: well there is no way to stop commerece
[2010/01/06 16:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: as do other people, but some people may charge for their land, and that is upto them
[2010/01/06 16:51] Melanie Milland: people put time into these things.
[2010/01/06 16:51] Greybeard Thinker: I just not fond of it in a grid I donate to so it can stay running
[2010/01/06 16:51] Melanie Milland: some put money into them
[2010/01/06 16:51] LeeLee Lamont: well I thought that what OSG was about...freedom
[2010/01/06 16:51] Melanie Milland: it's not the grid
[2010/01/06 16:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: it really depends on the owner and what you get
[2010/01/06 16:51] Melanie Milland: osgrid doesn't sell anything
[2010/01/06 16:51] Dave Coyle: osgrid isn't charging anyone anything
[2010/01/06 16:51] Viscian Axten: That's my point, so how does an economy make any sense, where does the money come from/go to?
[2010/01/06 16:51] LeeLee Lamont: true
[2010/01/06 16:51] Greybeard Thinker: I know, and I also put time and effort and money into building and set it free to copy for all here
[2010/01/06 16:51] Key Gruin: commerce is self-regulating
[2010/01/06 16:51] Melanie Milland: user to user, viscian
[2010/01/06 16:52] Key Gruin: supply and demand
[2010/01/06 16:52] Adelle Fitzgerald: Viscian, there is not grid wide economy
[2010/01/06 16:52] Dave Coyle: there is no economy in the SL sense. it's user-to-user.
[2010/01/06 16:52] Key Gruin: some people need paid services
[2010/01/06 16:52] WhiteStar Magic: dedicated servers cost money and time to manage them does too... if someone wants a region and they wanted it hosted, they should help cover that portion, as long as it is reasonable and not gouging, I think that is reasonable.
[2010/01/06 16:52] Viscian Axten: Ah, so you're talking paypal to paypal, not the old "linden$" system
[2010/01/06 16:52] Key Gruin: +100 Whitestar
[2010/01/06 16:52] Viscian Axten: How does user A get cash into their account?
[2010/01/06 16:52] Adelle Fitzgerald: if people want to charge for 'things' that is upto them to provide a mechanism for them to be able to collect monies from the customer
[2010/01/06 16:52] Melanie Milland: osgrid has no "spacebux"
[2010/01/06 16:52] Greybeard Thinker: I also pay for my own server so I can connect to grid, and ask nothing in return.
[2010/01/06 16:52] iliandra allen: would anyone have land I may use
[2010/01/06 16:52] WhiteStar Magic: LOL... Yeah.. Spacfe Bux
[2010/01/06 16:52] Dave Coyle: viscian: there is no account
[2010/01/06 16:52] Key Gruin: Paypal
[2010/01/06 16:53] Key Gruin: papypal module
[2010/01/06 16:53] Melanie Milland: can be as simple as a paypal button on a website, even
[2010/01/06 16:53] WhiteStar Magic: not every is capabale OR competent to run a server
[2010/01/06 16:53] Greybeard Thinker: true WS.
[2010/01/06 16:53] Richardus Raymaker: yes
[2010/01/06 16:53] Sisely Sciari: Commerce is one reason that I cancelled my SL account. I am not here to spend/make money.
[2010/01/06 16:53] Melanie Milland: OSG will not charge people any connection fees. period
[2010/01/06 16:53] LeeLee Lamont: best land, best server, best hair, skin = $
[2010/01/06 16:53] Sisely Sciari: I am here to learn and share.
[2010/01/06 16:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: but as Mel just pointed out, do beware that permissions on objects here mean squat, and can be very easily circumvented
[2010/01/06 16:54] LeeLee Lamont: hate that
[2010/01/06 16:54] Melanie Milland: however, servers MAY be rented
[2010/01/06 16:54] Prana KrewCheck: sooner or later people will charge for stuff because other people will pay for it
[2010/01/06 16:54] Melanie Milland: and if they are, they cost money
[2010/01/06 16:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: so if you are planning on selling stuff, bear that in mind
[2010/01/06 16:54] Dave Coyle: but not everyone will charge
[2010/01/06 16:54] Melanie Milland: however, OSGrid doesn't rent out servers
[2010/01/06 16:54] Melanie Milland: you can rent "naked" servers and do your own install
[2010/01/06 16:54] Melanie Milland: or you can rent managed regions
[2010/01/06 16:54] Melanie Milland: "Land" in common parlance
[2010/01/06 16:55] Melanie Milland: from people like myself
[2010/01/06 16:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: this is the current OSgrid infrastructure (the servers we run): http://www.osgrid.org/wiki/Infrastructure
[2010/01/06 16:55] LeeLee Lamont: :)
[2010/01/06 16:55] Greybeard Thinker: exactly Mel, and my sever is the cheapest hobby I have ever had and doesn't hurt like motor racing when it crashes
[2010/01/06 16:55] Prana KrewCheck: question is how can OSGrid facilitate. and regulate it
[2010/01/06 16:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: you will notice there is only a handful
[2010/01/06 16:55] Dave Coyle: prana: it doesn't
[2010/01/06 16:55] Dave Coyle: neither of those things
[2010/01/06 16:55] Samantha Fuller: We do however want to create an infrastructure & culture that enables bouth open source and regular comerce
[2010/01/06 16:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: and they are the grid services, assets and the others plazas, no more
[2010/01/06 16:55] Prana KrewCheck: i know
[2010/01/06 16:55] Prana KrewCheck: but should it
[2010/01/06 16:56] Adelle Fitzgerald: that is actually about to change slightly soon when we deploy two new servers
[2010/01/06 16:56] Sisely Sciari: I see your point, Samantha.
[2010/01/06 16:56] Melanie Milland: so we, for instance, will let you rent managed regions. then you can get the furniture for you house from us. for free :)
[2010/01/06 16:56] Dave Coyle: financial transactions are between users. whether you use some 3rd-party paypal opensim module or mail someone a check. osgrid isn't involved.
[2010/01/06 16:56] Melanie Milland: incidentally,t he furni is available to anyone, not just customers :)
[2010/01/06 16:56] iliandra allen: what would that cost
[2010/01/06 16:56] LeeLee Lamont: melanie, will it be as costly as SL?
[2010/01/06 16:56] Melanie Milland: i should not use this for advertising here
[2010/01/06 16:56] LeeLee Lamont: I never had land in SL
[2010/01/06 16:57] iliandra allen: but you opened the door so we want to look thru it
[2010/01/06 16:57] Dave Coyle: feel free to IM mel about it
[2010/01/06 16:57] LeeLee Lamont: ok
[2010/01/06 16:57] LeeLee Lamont: scared of losing my home
[2010/01/06 16:57] Tohrment Raynier: Other than server costs.... I'd lilke to see OS stay a free trade zone
[2010/01/06 16:57] Dave Coyle: or take to the shiny new Classifieds Forum!! :)
[2010/01/06 16:57] LeeLee Lamont: but...that's me
[2010/01/06 16:58] Richardus Raymaker: getting rich from selling objetcs. keep dreaming....
[2010/01/06 16:58] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe
[2010/01/06 16:58] Samantha Fuller: In refrence to that will we consider more or less permanantly attaching a notecard to assets for licencing info
[2010/01/06 16:58] Viscian Axten: I saw something about a guy buying some virtual place for $300k USD
[2010/01/06 16:58] Viscian Axten: :p
[2010/01/06 16:58] Richardus Raymaker: that are SL prices
[2010/01/06 16:58] WhiteStar Magic: yes... but that is something quite different too
[2010/01/06 16:59] Prana KrewCheck: not intersted in getting rich... just want to feel safe from fraud
[2010/01/06 16:59] WhiteStar Magic: no that is in US Dollaras RiRa
[2010/01/06 16:59] Richardus Raymaker: only wish would be come better copy protection. but i dont see how. besides a notecard nobody reads
[2010/01/06 16:59] Tohrment Raynier: wonderwho it is... cuz.. I"ve got this bridge I'd like to unload
[2010/01/06 17:00] Dave Coyle: it would be nice if one could attach arbitrary licensing info (beyond C/M/T) to any object. but there's no viewer support for such a thing, nor a standardized way of doing that.
[2010/01/06 17:00] Richardus Raymaker: LL ask $295 every month
[2010/01/06 17:00] Samantha Fuller: I need to log out, bye
[2010/01/06 17:00] Richardus Raymaker: bye samantha
[2010/01/06 17:00] Melanie Milland: yes. i think many here know what LL asks
[2010/01/06 17:00] Greybeard Thinker: tc SAm
[2010/01/06 17:00] LeeLee Lamont: bye samantha
[2010/01/06 17:00] Melanie Milland: i see it every month when my SL sims bill
[2010/01/06 17:00] Monerda Skute: bye Samantha
[2010/01/06 17:00] Sisely Sciari: bye bye samantha
[2010/01/06 17:00] Richardus Raymaker: tyhe ask tooo much !
[2010/01/06 17:00] Shez Oyen: 295 a monthand a grand up front
[2010/01/06 17:00] Prana KrewCheck: bye Sam
[2010/01/06 17:00] Viscian Axten: that's pretty ridiculous.
[2010/01/06 17:00] Melanie Milland: yes.
[2010/01/06 17:00] Shez Oyen: yes it's obscene
[2010/01/06 17:01] LeeLee Lamont: oh wll, I guess I'll enjoy OS while I can, :)
[2010/01/06 17:01] Melanie Milland: still i have 7 SL regions
[2010/01/06 17:01] Richardus Raymaker: and we forgot that you need to buy the server first in SL
[2010/01/06 17:01] Dave Coyle: what do you mean "while I can"?
[2010/01/06 17:01] Shez Oyen: I had 5.. I'm down to 2 on SL
[2010/01/06 17:01] Richardus Raymaker: i dont say prices :P
[2010/01/06 17:01] Melanie Milland: there wasn't a viable OSGrid when i got them
[2010/01/06 17:01] Shez Oyen: and I'm ready to drop another
[2010/01/06 17:01] Prana KrewCheck: Well the advantage here is you can roll your own .... it just connections.... the Grid that is happening
[2010/01/06 17:01] LeeLee Lamont: if regions will cost 50 USA, a sim might cost 30 usa?...I can't afford that
[2010/01/06 17:02] Prana KrewCheck: and that infrastructure is valuable... and worth protecting.....
[2010/01/06 17:02] Melanie Milland: well, i can't drop my SL regions.
[2010/01/06 17:02] Melanie Milland: i have a RP community going
[2010/01/06 17:02] Dave Coyle: oh, yes, adelle mentioned it a few mins ago but don't know if people knew... we're getting a couple of shiny new grid infrastructure servers this weekend.
[2010/01/06 17:02] Dave Coyle: there won't be any immediate user impact.
[2010/01/06 17:02] Dave Coyle: but it'll lower our expenses in the longer term
[2010/01/06 17:02] Richardus Raymaker: wel the bottem price is still the price server hosters ask for the server.
[2010/01/06 17:03] Dave Coyle: give us room to grow
[2010/01/06 17:03] Dave Coyle: and add redundancy
[2010/01/06 17:03] Adelle Fitzgerald: there shouldnt be any user impact, in fact if things goto plan, you shouldnt even notice :)
[2010/01/06 17:03] Prana KrewCheck: i love "shiny servers"
[2010/01/06 17:03] WhiteStar Magic: better performance through then what is currently running
[2010/01/06 17:03] Shez Oyen: oooooooo shiney
[2010/01/06 17:03] Melanie Milland: yup
[2010/01/06 17:03] WhiteStar Magic: so there will be a positive impact for the users here no ?
[2010/01/06 17:03] Melanie Milland: new shinies
[2010/01/06 17:03] WhiteStar Magic: <--- Get's out teh Trutle Wax
[2010/01/06 17:04] Viscian Axten: my precious...
[2010/01/06 17:04] Prana KrewCheck: hahahaah
[2010/01/06 17:04] Dave Coyle: well, we won't run out of room for asset storage for a while
[2010/01/06 17:04] Monerda Skute: does anyone know when th general Store will be back onlinbe?
[2010/01/06 17:04] Greybeard Thinker: I like to see road grime, proves you drive it
[2010/01/06 17:04] WhiteStar Magic: ADam was talking about rewritting some parts of it
[2010/01/06 17:04] Key Gruin: I think Adam is recoding the General Store
[2010/01/06 17:04] Dave Coyle: monerda: no, unfortunately
[2010/01/06 17:04] Monerda Skute: ah okies
[2010/01/06 17:04] Adelle Fitzgerald: these are actually quite nice boxes, intel 1U rackmount servers with 6TB storage ber box, Xeon CPU and 4Gb RAM, each
[2010/01/06 17:04] Shez Oyen: add a search function please
[2010/01/06 17:05] Nebadon Izumi: 8gb in each
[2010/01/06 17:05] Adelle Fitzgerald: 8Gb each even :P
[2010/01/06 17:05] Cilla Teebrook: oops lost iliaa
[2010/01/06 17:05] Adelle Fitzgerald: thanks Neb
[2010/01/06 17:05] Prana KrewCheck: I vote for Search Function
[2010/01/06 17:05] iliandra allen: sooo tired, cil
[2010/01/06 17:05] Adelle Fitzgerald blushes as she kinda specked them
[2010/01/06 17:05] WhiteStar Magic: +1 Search & Catagories
[2010/01/06 17:05] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/01/06 17:05] Monerda Skute: bye Ili and tc
[2010/01/06 17:05] LeeLee Lamont: bye bye Ili
[2010/01/06 17:05] Cilla Teebrook: oh . .yes u r still here.. but nite ntie iliaaaa
[2010/01/06 17:05] Tohrment Raynier: search would be wonderful!
[2010/01/06 17:05] iliandra allen: *waves....ty, it was helpful
[2010/01/06 17:05] Prana KrewCheck: bye Ili...
[2010/01/06 17:05] Dave Coyle: ok, we're at about 1 hour, so any last items to discuss in the next couple of minutes?
[2010/01/06 17:05] Tohrment Raynier: NIght Ili
[2010/01/06 17:05] Cilla Teebrook: good to see you
[2010/01/06 17:05] Nebadon Izumi: since we got the processors for free we could afford more ram
[2010/01/06 17:05] WhiteStar Magic: Night Nighjt Ili
[2010/01/06 17:05] Dave Coyle: g'night
[2010/01/06 17:05] Sisely Sciari: I have to go everyone. Thanks for all the information!
[2010/01/06 17:06] LeeLee Lamont: bye Sisely
[2010/01/06 17:06] Monerda Skute: byw Sisely
[2010/01/06 17:06] Dave Coyle: going once? going twice? ok, meeting adjourned. thanks for coming everyone.
[2010/01/06 17:06] Monerda Skute: I need to run too bye all
[2010/01/06 17:06] Dave Coyle: hope to see you next week
[2010/01/06 17:06] Cilla Teebrook: YAY
[2010/01/06 17:06] Melanie Milland: bye everyone
[2010/01/06 17:06] Nebadon Izumi: also, if anyone has some orginal poses for these chairs
[2010/01/06 17:06] Prana KrewCheck: Dave love it
[2010/01/06 17:06] Key Gruin: bye Monerda
[2010/01/06 17:06] Nebadon Izumi: we can rescript them
[2010/01/06 17:06] LeeLee Lamont: bye everyone, thanks so much
[2010/01/06 17:06] WhiteStar Magic: Bye to all leaving
[2010/01/06 17:07] Nebadon Izumi: i really stink at making poses and animatinos
[2010/01/06 17:07] Tohrment Raynier: Thanks for this...j
[2010/01/06 17:07] Jeeper Shim: See yea everyone
[2010/01/06 17:07] Tohrment Raynier: it's really helpful
[2010/01/06 17:07] Cilla Teebrook: i love this pose tooo
[2010/01/06 17:07] Key Gruin: I like it ;)
[2010/01/06 17:07] WhiteStar Magic: how many people did we hit ? Anyone keep track ?
[2010/01/06 17:07] Richardus Raymaker: this poses are good
[2010/01/06 17:07] Dave Coyle: >1
[2010/01/06 17:08] Dave Coyle: i dunno
[2010/01/06 17:08] Viscian Axten: at leaast 4
[2010/01/06 17:08] Nebadon Izumi: ya this pose is good it would be nice to have a variety of sit poses though
[2010/01/06 17:08] Dave Coyle: 20ish?
[2010/01/06 17:08] Cilla Teebrook: HIT?
[2010/01/06 17:08] Nebadon Izumi: perhaps it changes when you click your own chair
[2010/01/06 17:08] Tohrment Raynier: bye bye all....
[2010/01/06 17:08] Dave Coyle: bye
[2010/01/06 17:08] Arielle Popstar: closer to 30 i think
[2010/01/06 17:08] Tohrment Raynier: how did you say to get notices of the meetings?
[2010/01/06 17:08] Viscian Axten: i don't even know why i came, i don't have any stake in osgrid at all... i just mooch freebies :/
[2010/01/06 17:08] Richardus Raymaker: /
[2010/01/06 17:08] Richardus Raymaker: oops
[2010/01/06 17:08] Richardus Raymaker: nebadon you have my IM?
[2010/01/06 17:08] Dave Coyle: tohrment: join the "OSGrid Town Hall Meeting" group
[2010/01/06 17:08] Tohrment Raynier: ok Dave.. thank you
[2010/01/06 17:09] Prana KrewCheck: thainks dave
[2010/01/06 17:09] Adelle Fitzgerald: Viscian, this meeting is for people like you, the residents
[2010/01/06 17:09] Tohrment Raynier: going home to sort out trees ;)
[2010/01/06 17:09] Tohrment Raynier: hehehe
[2010/01/06 17:09] Adelle Fitzgerald: you may not have anything to contribute today, but you may another day :)
[2010/01/06 17:09] Tohrment Raynier: thank you all again for the info... suggestions etc...
[2010/01/06 17:09] Dave Coyle: at the very least you might get a notecard with new places to mooch freebies
[2010/01/06 17:09] Viscian Axten: I have some standing animations if anybody wants. :p
[2010/01/06 17:10] Cilla Teebrook: hehehe
[2010/01/06 17:10] Viscian Axten: haha true dave