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[10:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Albertlr
[10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Neovo
[10:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Dan called me yesterday, to check on me. I've Just been very busy and with several problems here.
[10:52 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oei... But luckily you made it here.
[10:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: We had tropical storm right on top of us for about 4 days. lots of flooding.
[10:52 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Wow.
[10:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: In my own subdivision had flooding down the street to the right of us, flooding on the street behind us, and major flooding at entrance of sub division.
[10:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, The OSG17B event went smoothly. almost 2 regions full.
[10:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: I went through it with my SUV very slowly.
[10:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay.
[10:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: Sorry I missed it. Also have a major problems with my new Native Instruments S88 MK3 keyboard.
[10:54 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oh. Thats bad.
[10:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: It would not run with out a firemare update, and Windows would not let it happen.
[10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: So eventually had to arrange to get a new keyboard and let them update it, because it appears that only an Apple Mac computer would update it.
[10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Geez... Why that incompatibility with Windows??
[10:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: I think I found the problems in Windows, so sort of Security settings for drivers and USB plugins.
[10:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay.
[10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: But now I think the firmware in the first midi keyboard is messed up.
[10:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oopsie.
[10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: It said it was installed correctly, but then had to reboot. And it would not reboot.
[10:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: ough.
[10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: Again probably because of bad drivers.
[10:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: Or MS not letting it reboot.
[10:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sad.
[10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: Native Instruments is a company out of Germany.
[10:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: Just glad the company I deal with is here in the states.
[10:57 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)
[10:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: I have spent latterly days trying to get it to work, just finally gave up.
[10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: But new Keyboard fully working should be here on Monday.
[10:59 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I can imagine... A firmware that will not load correctly although Windows says it is, is a real PIA...
[10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had to unplug every usb on my computer to see if the USB C would work on it.
[10:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: It would not.
[10:59 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Ships.
[11:00 AM]  albertlr Landar: i think they better designed it to work with Mac's rather than PC's
[11:00 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sad that they choose just Mac compatibility... Such way they exclude a lot of people.
[11:01 AM]  albertlr Landar: BTW, I decided to from now on post all the chats from the Saturday Q&A in the Wiki directly. It a lot easier to read and store there.
[11:01 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay. That will be s good thing indeed.
[11:01 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Lets see how many will attend today.
[11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: So i am glad to see that they have a notice about the fundraiser up already.
[11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: We need the donations of items for the auctions.
[11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: They may give people time to put them together.
[11:02 AM]  Prince Amor: hello you all
[11:02 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hello Prince how are you?
[11:02 AM]  Prince Amor: doing good thanks
[11:02 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I even rearranged the Event teleporters so they are now in a chronological order. Much better to see the events.
[11:02 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hello Prince
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: yes you did a good job there thank you for that
[11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh that sounds good.
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: i have seen more people using it too
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: because of that
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: and less where are the teleports
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)
[11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: I will have to tour the Birthday regions now that things have calmed down for me in the real world.
[11:03 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I also lowered that Teleport lane in Lbsa so they are more visible and accessible.
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: I enjoyed seeing that
[11:03 AM]  albertlr Landar: Before Dan closes them down.
[11:03 AM]  Prince Amor: yes I enjoyed watching them
[11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: I forgot to look at the theme before building
[11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: and didn't feel like starting over
[11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)
[11:04 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-) Only -1 and -2 are in use. -3 and -4 are still empty.
[11:04 AM]  albertlr Landar: thats ok
[11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: yeah
[11:04 AM]  Prince Amor: still enjoyed it
[11:04 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)
[11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: got my new machine last night
[11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: I have 100 fps here
[11:05 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Wow! Thats nice.
[11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: on ultra
[11:05 AM]  albertlr Landar: wow thats fast.
[11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: to boot
[11:05 AM]  Prince Amor: yes
[11:05 AM]  albertlr Landar: you using AMD or Intel cpu's
[11:06 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Altough, for a visually impaired like me it does not matter that much. But, nice to have hardware that is capable of such framerates.
[11:06 AM]  inanna beaumont is Online
[11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: Specs:

CPU: AMD 7800x3d

MotherBoard : Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite with WIFI 6

RAM: 2x32GB (64GB Total) Samsung DDR5

Storage: 1 TB Samsung Evo 990 PCIE Gen5x2

Graphics Card: Nvidia 4070 Super FE

Power Supply EVGA 1000w P3

OS: Windows 11 Pro

Case: Lianli A3
[11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: I heard that Intel had problems with their cpu's
[11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: oh big big ones yes
[11:06 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Jeehaw! Nice setup!
[11:06 AM]  albertlr Landar: they lost a lot of vaule because of that.
[11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: their cheating on the overclocking
[11:06 AM]  Prince Amor: started cooking them
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: yes guy that built this for me
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: was like
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: no intel just don't ask
[11:07 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea, my nephew has one from a friend that got fried because of heating up
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: i read an article over it
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: I did see they are offering extended warranties and what not
[11:07 AM]  albertlr Landar: was trying to fix it, but looks like it requires a new cpu.
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: it looks like they want to sell them anyway
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: that is right
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: is no fix at all for it if it happens
[11:07 AM]  Prince Amor: if you catch it early
[11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well they have a patch for the bios on the mother board they say.
[11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: like you buy it and then do the patch
[11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: you might be ok
[11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: But it will only help those that have not been messed up yet.
[11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: that is right
[11:08 AM]  Prince Amor: quite a thing that
[11:08 AM]  albertlr Landar: It was funny when he started up, the heat on it just went up and up.
[11:09 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep,Those Intel boards is first thing out of the box is patching that BIOS (UEFI) to get rid of that overclockig problem.
[11:09 AM]  albertlr Landar: despite the three fan Radiator cooler on top.
[11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: yes yes
[11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: so glad I didn't go that way
[11:09 AM]  Neovo Geesink: They act like the early AMD's now...
[11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: it is like intel fell out of favor
[11:09 AM]  Prince Amor: the ryzens are running happy happy
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: and are cheaper too I think
[11:10 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Would be quite a blow when Datacentres switch to AMD all  together...
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: it seems like there is a cycle
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: going on
[11:10 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had similar problem with my new Native Instruments S88 MK3 midi keyboard.
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: it is like that with apple too
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: I would not buy an apple now
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: soldered memory
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: I was so sad
[11:10 AM]  Prince Amor: I moved my m1
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: to use it for my work computer you know
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: blender and what not
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: and boy it bit the big one
[11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: It required a firmware update before it could be used, but the firmware update will not work in Windows.
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: and is locked in at 16 gig
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: ahh
[11:11 AM]  albertlr Landar: Now if I had an apple they say the update would work.
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: wonder if intel would go down over it
[11:11 AM]  Prince Amor: apple stopped using Intel also
[11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: way before
[11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: about 3 years now
[11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: I do still have a bunch of 2012 minis
[11:12 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, that would be another CPU manufacturer down... Like cyrix.
[11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: that are using it
[11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well i think the problem in my case was a setting that MS had set up for Security for USB and Drivers.
[11:12 AM]  Prince Amor: yes you were saying was quite a crash
[11:12 AM]  albertlr Landar: Sometimes they over protect things.
[11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: oh yes
[11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: and well for here it is just
[11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: well rough
[11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: the firewall kills a sim off easy
[11:13 AM]  albertlr Landar: I bet.
[11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: can do rules if you want but even then
[11:13 AM]  Prince Amor: need a better firewall
[11:13 AM]  albertlr Landar: I had to go into windows and put in place rules to allow opensim to got out and come in.
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: that is right
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: and even then
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: it will slow down rezzing to a trickle
[11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: Other wise they would shut down immediately when started.
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: it thinks an avatar tping in is a ddos attack
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: i wish I knew a better firewall
[11:14 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Same issue at my servers... Had to also put in a bunch of rules in the firewall... (Win10 Pro)
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: you all konw one?
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: then defender and that?
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: it is like
[11:14 AM]  albertlr Landar: no really.
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: there is no other or something
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: yeah
[11:14 AM]  Prince Amor: ;-)
[11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: defender wiped them out
[11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: and well apple has its own too really
[11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: these days they way that the other firewalls nag you is like a hacker.
[11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: yes I can agree with that also
[11:15 AM]  Prince Amor: even the virus software
[11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea especially the Virus Software.
[11:15 AM]  albertlr Landar: I use to use Noton all the time, not now.
[11:16 AM]  Neovo Geesink: OUGH... A Canon to shoot a bacteria...
[11:16 AM]  albertlr Landar: I think a lot of those successful software companies get bought by venture capitalist, and they end up ruining what it does.
[11:16 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Norton is seriously heavy on your resources.
[11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: i like malwarbytes
[11:17 AM]  Prince Amor: if i have an issue it seems to fix it
[11:17 AM]  albertlr Landar: thats good.
[11:17 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I have Avast, paid plan, and I am content with it.
[11:17 AM]  albertlr Landar: thats good too.
[11:18 AM]  albertlr Landar: So many of the Internet companies have gone to over the top using strange ways to protect data.
[11:19 AM]  albertlr Landar: My on line pharmacy when I run low on a prescription will not tell me which prescription it really is, they use some obscure number which I can not interpret.
[11:19 AM]  albertlr Landar: makes me mad.
[11:19 AM]  Neovo Geesink: This morning I had to restart Sandbox Plaza III due to the Scripts completely died there... It even did not came back on-line, so I messaged Dan, and he got it to reboot.
[11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: hum wonder why that is.
[11:20 AM]  Neovo Geesink: This happens often in III.
[11:20 AM]  albertlr Landar: its the only one using something isn't iot?
[11:20 AM]  Neovo Geesink: The other two Sandbox Plaza's are OKay.
[11:21 AM]  Neovo Geesink: It is using ubODE...
[11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: Ubode?
[11:21 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Probably something with that.
[11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: thought so.
[11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: the only thing I have a problem with Bullet is walking up steps.
[11:21 AM]  albertlr Landar: If they fixed that then I would have no problem with it.
[11:22 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep, If the steps are too high, an Avatar will not climb it...
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: i think the regions are falling asleep
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: like a time out
[11:22 AM]  albertlr Landar: Or have to try going side ways.
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: so if you sit at lbsa
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: you can't tp back out
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: after about 15 minutes
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: frame rate there is also half the speed of here
[11:22 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Oopsie...
[11:22 AM]  Prince Amor: and well my own places too
[11:23 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, All that stuff in Lbsa is indeed bringing down the frame rate... Also some over complex Avatars there.
[11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: I saw where they were discussing problems with Firestorm recently.
[11:23 AM]  albertlr Landar: Some changes with SL settings.
[11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: yes yes
[11:23 AM]  Neovo Geesink: OUGH... I have reverted to 6. FS 7 is not my sort..
[11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: lots of stuff going on
[11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: fs7
[11:23 AM]  Prince Amor: has major major issues
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: can't find the last outfit
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: dan knows of it though
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: it is on the jira etc..
[11:24 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea trying to keep up with changes on Second Life do not work well here.
[11:24 AM]  Neovo Geesink: It throws off the entire light balancing... :-( Thats at least one of the issues I had.
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: yes i noticed that also
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: I am really enjoying making things with pbr
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: but
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: some things are pretty weird
[11:24 AM]  albertlr Landar: At least Singularity is not being changed much these days.
[11:24 AM]  Prince Amor: and some are non standard with some game assets
[11:25 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Singularity throws me out of Lbsa and other crowded regions now and then... If i am in a region with only a few avatars I have no problems with Singu whatsoever... But Firestorm keeps me in all the time.
[11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: it is usually after a crash
[11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: or purge of cache
[11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: that it is a major workout
[11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: trying to get back in
[11:26 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep.
[11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: i noticed the vram toggle
[11:26 AM]  Prince Amor: seems to help
[11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: which means fs may be not quite getting the numbers right
[11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: so it is not dynamically assigning it, but set to a fixed value?
[11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: when i set it to 32
[11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: it seems to behave better
[11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: on fs7
[11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Okay.
[11:27 AM]  albertlr Landar: Humn i checked the download page at Singularity and looks like they removed the Nightly Download page
[11:27 AM]  Prince Amor: less likely to crash
[11:27 AM]  Neovo Geesink: IF I ever switch back to FS7, I will try that.
[11:28 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.singularityviewer.org/downloads/
[11:28 AM]  Prince Amor: it seems to of helped many
[11:30 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Apart from mentioned Sandbox Plaza III, all is going pretty well here.
[11:30 AM]  Prince Amor: in general yes
[11:30 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well that is good to hear
[11:30 AM]  Prince Amor: was a big move
[11:31 AM]  Prince Amor: can ony get better as they fix it
[11:31 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hopefully.
[11:33 AM]  albertlr Landar: I was just looking at the Showcase in Singularity, I am glad to see many more users have started putting their regions in it.
[11:33 AM]  albertlr Landar: Seems to be growing in use.
[11:34 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)
[11:34 AM]  Prince Amor: there are a few other web pages running also
[11:34 AM]  Prince Amor: wha tis the show case?
[11:36 AM]  Prince Amor: https://soziarium.su/post/27076
[11:36 AM]  Prince Amor: is a new site
[11:37 AM]  Prince Amor: not sure how good it is in the end
[11:37 AM]  Prince Amor: or who is running it you know
[11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh its FS too.
[11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: If you look in Singularity under the search, look for the heading Showcase.
[11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: There are 89 entries now it seems.
[11:37 AM]  albertlr Landar: Not sure if some aren't duplicates however.
[11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: However I had one region where I have freebies, and I placed two boxes on it.
[11:38 AM]  Prince Amor: oh it is in the viewer
[11:38 AM]  Prince Amor: not a web page or something
[11:38 AM]  albertlr Landar: Because it is so large, one at the main warehouse, and then on at the other end where I have a mall.
[11:38 AM]  Prince Amor: kind of like the outworldz one
[11:39 AM]  albertlr Landar: well yes its also on the web site too.
[11:39 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/destinations/
[11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: Destination Guild on web site.
[11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: Listed under Grid.
[11:40 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/destinations_guide_helper.php
[11:40 AM]  Prince Amor: ahh i have not seen that that is cool
[11:41 AM]  Prince Amor: need to get more people to do that
[11:41 AM]  albertlr Landar: And helper page to set it up if you have regions you would like to set i on your own regions.
[11:41 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Seems that I have to update the picture for Meet&Greet... That building is no more. Was difficult to manage when inside due to viewing angle.
[11:42 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well I know you can give Dan a pic to place on it.
[11:42 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)
[11:42 AM]  Prince Amor: I have all my personals there
[11:42 AM]  Prince Amor: nice to see that develop
[11:42 AM]  Prince Amor: know you all been working that for long time
[11:43 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea, it was sitting un-used for a while.
[11:43 AM]  Prince Amor: well that one script was an issue for a while
[11:43 AM]  Prince Amor: seems to work well now though
[11:44 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I Think Paela was the first who pioneered it?
[11:44 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea
[11:44 AM]  albertlr Landar: there were a few bugs that had to be worked out, and its working a lot better now.
[11:44 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-)
[11:44 AM]  Prince Amor: i notice it is showing event plaza in 3 slots
[11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea different categories I guess.
[11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: not sure if you can list more than one in a set up.
[11:45 AM]  albertlr Landar: But its possible.
[11:46 AM]  Prince Amor: is paela the only one that can add it?
[11:47 AM]  Prince Amor: or is it just the script?
[11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: No you can basically do it yourself, also Dan can adjust things if needed.
[11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: It just how you set up the script.
[11:47 AM]  Neovo Geesink: The script seems to determine in which category it goes.
[11:47 AM]  albertlr Landar: yea
[11:47 AM]  Prince Amor: ok will look at that
[11:47 AM]  Neovo Geesink: There are comments embedded in the Script.
[11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: yes I worked it before
[11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: just
[11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: notice a new one there
[11:48 AM]  albertlr Landar: As I mentioned I had placed mine in two different locations on my same var region.
[11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: ahh that could be cool
[11:48 AM]  Prince Amor: will think on that too
[11:48 AM]  albertlr Landar: At the front and at the back, which are two different shopping areas.
[11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: It just shows the same pic for both.
[11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: will see what they are doing
[11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: let me go ahead and leave you all
[11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: do that before I forget
[11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: :-)
[11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: ok thanks for coming take care.
[11:49 AM]  Prince Amor: of course have a nice day now
[11:49 AM]  Neovo Geesink: :-) Till next time.
[11:49 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well Hypergird Business in its latest update on the grids shows OSgrid as still the largest, with second largest attendance.
[11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2024/07/opensim-regions-up-actives-down-with-summer-heat/
[11:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Wow. Nice.
[11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: But never heard of Simation Grid?
[11:50 AM]  Neovo Geesink: New to me as well...
[11:50 AM]  albertlr Landar: Says at beginning of Article they say they have 25,408 regions?
[11:51 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yikes? That fast?
[11:51 AM]  albertlr Landar: Yea I wonder if that includes user, or just land they have set up.
[11:52 AM]  albertlr Landar: And wonder if they are commercial.
[11:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: Oh I see they only have 19 users right now, so guess just getting started.
[11:53 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I do not know. They might end up in the Opensimworld beacon sooner or later, so we can check them out.
[11:53 AM]  albertlr Landar: Hum they say they have 31 regions which standard region equivalents are 25, 408 Km2.
[11:54 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Looks like they have a few VARs there...
[11:54 AM]  albertlr Landar: I am not sure how you translate that, but I would guess they are talking about Var Regions.
[11:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Sure, since one can cramp 16 Standards in a square Kilometre.
[11:55 AM]  albertlr Landar: But I know that very large var regions are not practical at this point.
[11:55 AM]  Neovo Geesink: I am keeping them Max 3X3. I have experimented earlier with a 10X10, but that was overkill.
[11:56 AM]  albertlr Landar: 512 X 512 I think is the largest recommended size unless you have a very fast computer.
[11:56 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Yep. Thats why I have splitted my VARs and Standards across 2 seperate servers.
[11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: hum says Technology Build on Opensim, wonder if they are doing some of their own programming on it.
[11:57 AM]  albertlr Landar: If so hope they share.
[11:58 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Even the unknown of which version they use...
[11:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: Yea.
[11:58 AM]  albertlr Landar: Some made some nice changes in the past but did to share, then they close down and it gets lost.
[11:58 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Hopefully not Simonastick.
[11:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: Well I guess I shall call it quits for today. No one else here to inquiry about things.
[11:59 AM]  Neovo Geesink: Indeed... I agree.
[11:59 AM]  albertlr Landar: Thanks for coming Neovo. Hope you don't get all the rain we had here on the Eastern Side of the US.
[12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Well, we will see here in the Netherlands...
[12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Till next time.
[12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: We still have possible Hurricanes to look forward too in the coming months however.
[12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Aii...
[12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: Next Board meeting in Sept I hear.
[12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Yes, Indeed.
[12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: But will check in before.
[12:00 PM]  Neovo Geesink: Sept. 1st.
[12:00 PM]  albertlr Landar: Good Day to you.