TownHallMeetingLog20091126

[2009/11/25 15:54] Jeeper Shim: Hi Adelle
[2009/11/25 15:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: hiya Jeeper
[2009/11/25 15:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: how are ya
[2009/11/25 15:54] Jeeper Shim: Good. you?
[2009/11/25 15:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: yeah good too thanks :)
[2009/11/25 15:55] Jeeper Shim: Good to see booze at these meetings haha
[2009/11/25 15:57] Nebs Cherry Martini with Orange Slice whispers: Another route to Nirvana
[2009/11/25 15:59] Warin Cascabel: Evening!
[2009/11/25 15:59] Jeeper Shim: Hi Warin
[2009/11/25 16:00] Adelle Fitzgerald: hello Warin
[2009/11/25 16:00] Warin Cascabel: Argh, BRB, the cat's litterbox jammed.
[2009/11/25 16:00] Adelle Fitzgerald: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:01] Jeeper Shim: lol
[2009/11/25 16:01] Warin Cascabel: Hey, Starky
[2009/11/25 16:02] Jeeper Shim: Hi Starky
[2009/11/25 16:02] Starky Rubble: hody folks
[2009/11/25 16:02] Eryn Galen: Hi everyone
[2009/11/25 16:02] Warin Cascabel: Hey, Eryn, Greybeard
[2009/11/25 16:02] Greybeard Thinker: Hi all
[2009/11/25 16:02] Starky Rubble: howdy^
[2009/11/25 16:02] Jeeper Shim: Hi Eryn and Grebeard
[2009/11/25 16:02] Eryn Galen: pfew, I feel safer now with a floorm lol
[2009/11/25 16:03] World Star: Hello
[2009/11/25 16:03] Warin Cascabel: Hello, World
[2009/11/25 16:03] Warin Cascabel: LOL
[2009/11/25 16:03] Jeeper Shim: Hi World
[2009/11/25 16:03] Eryn Galen: Hi world
[2009/11/25 16:03] Starky Rubble: Hi Gtray, Eryn and Grey
[2009/11/25 16:03] Greybeard Thinker: Hi Starky
[2009/11/25 16:03] Greybeard Thinker: World
[2009/11/25 16:03] Eryn Galen: Hi Starky
[2009/11/25 16:04] Greybeard Thinker: Warin and Adelle
[2009/11/25 16:04] Eryn Galen: Setz dich irgendwo World :)
[2009/11/25 16:04] Simulator Version shouts: OpenSim 0.6.8 (Dev) git# d38f337 2009-10-20 14:41:20 -0700 (OS Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 ) ChilTasks:True PhysPrim:True
[2009/11/25 16:04] Greybeard Thinker: could have done with an admin at Lbsa half an hour ago
[2009/11/25 16:04] Warin Cascabel: Oh?
[2009/11/25 16:04] Greybeard Thinker: yep fool with his dick hanging out
[2009/11/25 16:04] Warin Cascabel: Ah. Classy.
[2009/11/25 16:05] Greybeard Thinker: lucas72 luciano
[2009/11/25 16:05] Greybeard Thinker: may need watching.
[2009/11/25 16:05] Warin Cascabel: Thanks for the tip.
[2009/11/25 16:05] Warin Cascabel: Ah, no pun intended.
[2009/11/25 16:05] Greybeard Thinker: welcome
[2009/11/25 16:05] Starky Rubble: and World lol
[2009/11/25 16:05] Eryn Galen: lol Warin
[2009/11/25 16:05] Greybeard Thinker: I took a certain amopunt of offence when he started bumping Eryn
[2009/11/25 16:06] Greybeard Thinker: so I pushed him across LBSA and yelled at him a bit.
[2009/11/25 16:06] Greybeard Thinker: lol.
[2009/11/25 16:06] Jeeper Shim: that's happened there before
[2009/11/25 16:06] Starky Rubble: Have a seat, World
[2009/11/25 16:06] Greybeard Thinker: too often lately
[2009/11/25 16:06] Starky Rubble: yeah - twerps happen most anywhere and everywhere
[2009/11/25 16:06] Eryn Galen: yes, I think it has to do with LBSA now being mature region actually
[2009/11/25 16:07] Jeeper Shim: They are gonna show up here. Not much can be done about that
[2009/11/25 16:07] Greybeard Thinker: like I said mature doesn't mean nudist colony or porn zone though.
[2009/11/25 16:07] Warin Cascabel: Honestly, I think the people who are going to do that sort of thing don't even look to see if it's a PG or Mature region.
[2009/11/25 16:07] Eryn Galen: Yes Jeeps, we can tell them we dont want that displayed in public areas
[2009/11/25 16:07] Eryn Galen: at Warin
[2009/11/25 16:08] Eryn Galen: but then at least we can TELL them
[2009/11/25 16:08] Eryn Galen: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:08] Warin Cascabel: Heh :)
[2009/11/25 16:08] Warin Cascabel: Is that a new skin, Greybeard?
[2009/11/25 16:08] Jeeper Shim: yeah. they are probably kids from sl or teen grid
[2009/11/25 16:08] Greybeard Thinker: no? I did purge my appearance this morning
[2009/11/25 16:08] Starky Rubble: I imagine that would just make it funnier
[2009/11/25 16:08] Greybeard Thinker: maybe a bit fuzzy still lol.
[2009/11/25 16:08] Warin Cascabel: Actually it looks more detailed than the last time I saw you. Maybe it hadn't fully rezzed then.
[2009/11/25 16:09] Greybeard Thinker: that could be it Warin
[2009/11/25 16:09] Eryn Galen: Hi Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:09] Jeeper Shim: HI aradox
[2009/11/25 16:09] Aradox Pomeroy: hello people
[2009/11/25 16:09] Greybeard Thinker: Hi Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:10] Eryn Galen: Starky, that was nice of you, but please come and sit again
[2009/11/25 16:10] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:10] Greybeard Thinker: heheeh sidesaddle Aradox?
[2009/11/25 16:10] Aradox Pomeroy: yep. didnt get the ball lol
[2009/11/25 16:10] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe
[2009/11/25 16:11] Aradox Pomeroy: have i missed much - whats the topic?
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: +0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: +0+ +0+
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: +0+ WHOOOHOOOOOO +0+
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: +0+ +0+
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: +0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: Penny
[2009/11/25 16:11] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Pennyroyal
[2009/11/25 16:11] Jeeper Shim: Hi Penny
[2009/11/25 16:11] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Warin !
[2009/11/25 16:11] Greybeard Thinker: erm?
[2009/11/25 16:11] Starky Rubble: Hiya
[2009/11/25 16:11] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Jeeper, Eryn, Grey
[2009/11/25 16:11] Aradox Pomeroy: hi penny
[2009/11/25 16:11] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Starky, Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:11] Starky Rubble: no topic yet
[2009/11/25 16:11] Greybeard Thinker: Hi PennyMoni
[2009/11/25 16:11] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe
[2009/11/25 16:11] Eryn Galen: lol Grey
[2009/11/25 16:12] Pennyroyal Skute: MOneyPenny lol
[2009/11/25 16:12] Aradox Pomeroy: i felt really proud of myself yesterday
[2009/11/25 16:12] Greybeard Thinker: ahhb sorry got it frack to bont
[2009/11/25 16:12] Greybeard Thinker: lol.
[2009/11/25 16:12] Aradox Pomeroy: under whitestars tuition i can now pull from the repo, and build the latest
[2009/11/25 16:12] Greybeard Thinker: cool
[2009/11/25 16:12] Aradox Pomeroy: greeeat fun !
[2009/11/25 16:12] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Adelle
[2009/11/25 16:13] Eryn Galen: cool Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:13] Warin Cascabel: Excellent, Aradox.
[2009/11/25 16:13] Aradox Pomeroy: I'm getting there, bit by bit
[2009/11/25 16:13] Adelle Fitzgerald: hello, sorry, im caught up in IM atm
[2009/11/25 16:13] Aradox Pomeroy: building viewers too
[2009/11/25 16:13] Pennyroyal Skute: np ;)
[2009/11/25 16:13] Eryn Galen: no worries Adelle :)
[2009/11/25 16:13] Greybeard Thinker: "Hello World" still crashes with my scripting and coding skills lol.
[2009/11/25 16:13] Warin Cascabel: Heh.
[2009/11/25 16:14] Jeeper Shim: Mine too Greybeard
[2009/11/25 16:14] Pennyroyal Skute: ho World Star
[2009/11/25 16:14] Pennyroyal Skute: *hi
[2009/11/25 16:14] Eryn Galen: coffee and cigarettes, Warin?
[2009/11/25 16:14] World Star: lol
[2009/11/25 16:14] Greybeard Thinker: glad I'm no orphan then Jeep thanks
[2009/11/25 16:14] Pennyroyal Skute whispers: oh I could gor coffee and cigarettes too ;)
[2009/11/25 16:14] Eryn Galen: Hey Key :)
[2009/11/25 16:14] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Key
[2009/11/25 16:14] Eryn Galen: Hi White :)
[2009/11/25 16:14] Starky Rubble waves
[2009/11/25 16:14] Key Gruin: Hi Everyone :)
[2009/11/25 16:14] Greybeard Thinker: shouts, IS going for coffee and smokes right now lol.
[2009/11/25 16:14] Aradox Pomeroy: hi key
[2009/11/25 16:15] Jeeper Shim: Hi Key
[2009/11/25 16:15] Warin Cascabel: Hello, WhiteStar, Key
[2009/11/25 16:15] Pennyroyal Skute: hello WhiteStar
[2009/11/25 16:15] Aradox Pomeroy: oh hi - whitestar
[2009/11/25 16:15] WhiteStar Magic: Evening Folks
[2009/11/25 16:15] Jeeper Shim: Hi WhiteStar
[2009/11/25 16:15] Starky Rubble: evenin'
[2009/11/25 16:15] Aradox Pomeroy: thanks to you whitestar, it all worked. i can now build updates
[2009/11/25 16:16] Adelle Fitzgerald: shows you as being an owner
[2009/11/25 16:16] Adelle Fitzgerald: oops
[2009/11/25 16:16] Aradox Pomeroy: whoooops
[2009/11/25 16:16] Aradox Pomeroy: sorry
[2009/11/25 16:17] Eryn Galen: Hope its okay Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:17] Aradox Pomeroy: what is ok, Eryn?
[2009/11/25 16:17] Sarvana Cherry: Is thi sth eTown meeting?
[2009/11/25 16:17] Eryn Galen: I grabbed your seat, hehe
[2009/11/25 16:17] Eryn Galen: yes Sarvana, hi
[2009/11/25 16:17] Starky Rubble: yep
[2009/11/25 16:17] Starky Rubble: welcome
[2009/11/25 16:18] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Sarvana
[2009/11/25 16:18] WhiteStar Magic: Sorry Was in Video Meeting when I got here... will be resuming in about an hour
[2009/11/25 16:18] Sarvana Cherry: Hi
[2009/11/25 16:18] Aradox Pomeroy: np, eryn - i seemed to have collapsed onto the floor
[2009/11/25 16:18] Aradox Pomeroy: fair game, lol
[2009/11/25 16:18] WhiteStar Magic: Glad it all worked out Aradox
[2009/11/25 16:18] Eryn Galen: hehe, just take another seat Arado
[2009/11/25 16:18] Eryn Galen: x
[2009/11/25 16:18] Aradox Pomeroy: yes whitestar - and now i'm building viewers
[2009/11/25 16:18] Sarvana Cherry: Hello, everyone... almost headed home... RL...
[2009/11/25 16:18] Jeeper Shim: Hi Sarvana
[2009/11/25 16:18] Sarvana Cherry: waiting for low traffic... lol, lol
[2009/11/25 16:19] WhiteStar Magic: We do not want to hear about Viewer Code
[2009/11/25 16:19] Sarvana Cherry: Hi
[2009/11/25 16:19] Aradox Pomeroy: say no more - say no more
[2009/11/25 16:19] Sarvana Cherry: Hello Adelle... thank you for your help
[2009/11/25 16:19] WhiteStar Magic: Unless they are NOT LL Derived
[2009/11/25 16:19] Starky Rubble: unlessits Idealist, Looing Glass or Rei
[2009/11/25 16:19] Aradox Pomeroy: i perfectly understand
[2009/11/25 16:19] Greybeard Thinker: Hi there WS long time no see mate
[2009/11/25 16:20] Starky Rubble: yes
[2009/11/25 16:20] WhiteStar Magic: Hey GreyBeard
[2009/11/25 16:20] Aradox Pomeroy: I'm not reading the code - just hitting "build" lol
[2009/11/25 16:20] Eryn Galen: Hi Kally
[2009/11/25 16:20] Kally Rakan: hi all
[2009/11/25 16:20] Greybeard Thinker: Hi Kally
[2009/11/25 16:20] Nebadon Izumi: hey guys
[2009/11/25 16:20] Eryn Galen: HiNeb
[2009/11/25 16:20] Jeeper Shim: Hi Kally
[2009/11/25 16:20] Starky Rubble: So, whats the state of the community?
[2009/11/25 16:20] Jeeper Shim: Hi Nebadon
[2009/11/25 16:21] WhiteStar Magic: a Quick something for everyone. I have been updating some things in the OS WIKI. This may be of interest in general:

http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OSSL_Enabling_Functions
[2009/11/25 16:21] Greybeard Thinker: downloaded that 3Di Rei plugin for firefox all Japanese pity I can only order beer in that language lol.
[2009/11/25 16:21] Starky Rubble: hee
[2009/11/25 16:21] Starky Rubble: and you have all that homebrew
[2009/11/25 16:21] Eryn Galen: hehe Starky
[2009/11/25 16:22] Starky Rubble: Nice work WS!
[2009/11/25 16:22] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Kally, Nebadon, Sarvana
[2009/11/25 16:22] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Kally, hi Nebadon
[2009/11/25 16:22] Aradox Pomeroy: hi people
[2009/11/25 16:22] Adelle Fitzgerald: hello peoples :)
[2009/11/25 16:22] Starky Rubble: Oh did I miss the bump to 06.8?
[2009/11/25 16:22] Sarvana Cherry: oh my
[2009/11/25 16:22] Kally Rakan: greetings and salutations to all :)
[2009/11/25 16:23] Aradox Pomeroy: now sarvana fell off her chair too
[2009/11/25 16:23] Sarvana Cherry: better
[2009/11/25 16:23] Aradox Pomeroy: strange
[2009/11/25 16:23] Aradox Pomeroy: hi kally
[2009/11/25 16:23] Greybeard Thinker: can't see white sit balls?
[2009/11/25 16:23] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Not Sure
[2009/11/25 16:23] Sarvana Cherry: glass at home. hehe
[2009/11/25 16:23] Greybeard Thinker: better make em flashing red Neb lol.
[2009/11/25 16:23] Not Sure: Hi
[2009/11/25 16:23] Sarvana Cherry: glasses
[2009/11/25 16:23] Pennyroyal Skute: I missed twice trying to sit hehe
[2009/11/25 16:23] Eryn Galen: Hi Not
[2009/11/25 16:23] Not Sure: :)
[2009/11/25 16:23] Jeeper Shim: too much vodka
[2009/11/25 16:24] Pennyroyal Skute: hiya Not
[2009/11/25 16:24] Eryn Galen: lol Jeeps
[2009/11/25 16:24] Jeeper Shim: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:24] Pennyroyal Skute: lool Jeeper yep
[2009/11/25 16:24] Pennyroyal Skute: guilty as charged
[2009/11/25 16:24] Sarvana Cherry: who got the vodka? hehe
[2009/11/25 16:24] Pennyroyal Skute: mine's SVedka tho
[2009/11/25 16:24] Jeeper Shim: teh blue bottles
[2009/11/25 16:24] Sarvana Cherry: mmmm
[2009/11/25 16:24] Pennyroyal Skute: chaeper than Absolut ;)
[2009/11/25 16:24] Greybeard Thinker: pour some in my coffee cup please?
[2009/11/25 16:24] Eryn Galen: lol
[2009/11/25 16:25] Greybeard Thinker: it's a big coffee cup, keep pouring
[2009/11/25 16:25] Nebadon Izumi: brb afk a moment
[2009/11/25 16:25] Eryn Galen: Oh Adelle, Warin. New ppl keep asking for landmarks to the plazas
[2009/11/25 16:26] Sarvana Cherry: Hello
[2009/11/25 16:26] Warin Cascabel: Aren't there Plaza landmarks in the new user notecard?
[2009/11/25 16:26] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Sarvana.
[2009/11/25 16:26] Eryn Galen: yep, just checked
[2009/11/25 16:26] Eryn Galen: duh
[2009/11/25 16:26] Eryn Galen: thanks
[2009/11/25 16:26] Greybeard Thinker: I don't think they bother to read them Warin
[2009/11/25 16:27] Eryn Galen: yeah well, now I can tell them they are in there
[2009/11/25 16:27] Eryn Galen: lol
[2009/11/25 16:27] Warin Cascabel: :)
[2009/11/25 16:27] Sarvana Cherry: How can I het a new user card?
[2009/11/25 16:27] Sarvana Cherry: get
[2009/11/25 16:27] Starky Rubble: That's a little harsh GB, I think their just in a rush
[2009/11/25 16:27] Warin Cascabel: Click the "New Users" sign in Lbsa Plaza, Sarvana.
[2009/11/25 16:27] Sarvana Cherry: simple enough thanks
[2009/11/25 16:27] Eryn Galen: I had one with me Warin
[2009/11/25 16:27] Greybeard Thinker: haste makes waste Starky
[2009/11/25 16:28] Kally Rakan: I have one too but I don't know if it's the most recent
[2009/11/25 16:28] Starky Rubble: tru 'nuff Grey
[2009/11/25 16:28] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe
[2009/11/25 16:28] Sarvana Cherry: Thanks, Eryn
[2009/11/25 16:29] Eryn Galen: pleasure, Sarvana
[2009/11/25 16:29] Greybeard Thinker: Starky? your new megaregion settled down now?
[2009/11/25 16:29] Eryn Galen: Oh, any idea why both sandboxes turned no build yesterday?
[2009/11/25 16:29] Warin Cascabel: Did they? Are they still no-build?
[2009/11/25 16:29] Eryn Galen: havent checked today yet
[2009/11/25 16:30] Starky Rubble: I think so.... I have been spooty in my in world time lalely
[2009/11/25 16:30] Eryn Galen: just turned
[2009/11/25 16:30] Eryn Galen: lol
[2009/11/25 16:30] Starky Rubble: spotty^
[2009/11/25 16:30] Greybeard Thinker: that may have been Teravus testing something
[2009/11/25 16:30] Greybeard Thinker: sandboxes I mean.
[2009/11/25 16:31] Key Gruin: spooty?
[2009/11/25 16:31] Key Gruin: lol
[2009/11/25 16:31] Greybeard Thinker: I call myself lucky to be here today we had a fine storm blow in yesterday evening
[2009/11/25 16:31] Greybeard Thinker: power blackout for 15 hours
[2009/11/25 16:31] Key Gruin: yikes
[2009/11/25 16:31] Pennyroyal Skute: I ordered FIOS today from Verizon. I wonder what their reaction will be when they realize I am 600 feet from the road?
[2009/11/25 16:32] Warin Cascabel: "Sorry, no can do... but we're charging you for the service call anyway."
[2009/11/25 16:32] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe
[2009/11/25 16:32] Sarvana Cherry: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:32] Pennyroyal Skute whispers: yup ;-P
[2009/11/25 16:32] Pennyroyal Skute: get out the entrenching tools guys
[2009/11/25 16:32] Greybeard Thinker: into damage recovery mode here today
[2009/11/25 16:33] Starky Rubble: Iv'e draped fiber thru trees before
[2009/11/25 16:33] Greybeard Thinker: trees, fences, roofs power lines
[2009/11/25 16:33] Greybeard Thinker: all over the scrub lol.
[2009/11/25 16:33] Eryn Galen: lol Starky
[2009/11/25 16:33] Pennyroyal Skute: I've got plenty of trees Starky ;-)
[2009/11/25 16:33] Pennyroyal Skute: Black Walnuts mostly
[2009/11/25 16:33] Starky Rubble: get one of those newfangled radio thingies
[2009/11/25 16:33] Pennyroyal Skute: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:34] Pennyroyal Skute: spark gap
[2009/11/25 16:34] Starky Rubble: put the base out at the pole
[2009/11/25 16:34] Eryn Galen: Are we still waiting for Dave, btw?
[2009/11/25 16:34] Greybeard Thinker: I'm thinking of a new fangled pedal power job
[2009/11/25 16:34] Pennyroyal Skute: yeah Canopy I think from Motorola
[2009/11/25 16:34] Greybeard Thinker: ty Warin
[2009/11/25 16:34] Starky Rubble: a solar cell and a coupla big marine batteries
[2009/11/25 16:35] Greybeard Thinker: make that 6 really BIG submarine 2 volt coes please
[2009/11/25 16:35] Adelle Fitzgerald: its doubtful Dave will be coming now, i think
[2009/11/25 16:35] Sarvana Cherry: How long do you mtgs usually last?
[2009/11/25 16:35] Greybeard Thinker: lots of starage space in them
[2009/11/25 16:35] Pennyroyal Skute: well the power and cable companies had no trouble running their lines back here
[2009/11/25 16:35] Adelle Fitzgerald: i thought you had all started already ;)
[2009/11/25 16:35] Key Gruin: cantenna to cantenna works good for LAN hookups
[2009/11/25 16:35] Pennyroyal Skute: hehe Key !
[2009/11/25 16:35] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe Key
[2009/11/25 16:35] Key Gruin: I'm serious
[2009/11/25 16:35] Greybeard Thinker: we know
[2009/11/25 16:35] Starky Rubble: Pringles cantennas?
[2009/11/25 16:35] Key Gruin: cantennas work good
[2009/11/25 16:36] Eryn Galen: lol Starky
[2009/11/25 16:36] Key Gruin: no I made mine from 4" PVC
[2009/11/25 16:36] Adelle Fitzgerald: a bi-quad works amazing on a 80cm dish ;)
[2009/11/25 16:36] Greybeard Thinker: or an industrial light shade
[2009/11/25 16:36] Kally Rakan: if you're going to make a permanent setup you should use high gain yagis
[2009/11/25 16:36] Warin Cascabel: Both Sandbox Plazas are buildable tonight, Eryn - may have just been a glitch (when I crossed into SP2, I saw a "no fly" indicator until I

changed parcels).
[2009/11/25 16:36] Starky Rubble: Pringles cans worked grat back when - about the same size really
[2009/11/25 16:36] Pennyroyal Skute: I will have do dig out my 10 GHz transverters and dishes
[2009/11/25 16:36] Adelle Fitzgerald is a big fan of making her own wifi antennas :)
[2009/11/25 16:36] Kally Rakan: a bonus is that you can fry intruders with them too :)
[2009/11/25 16:37] Eryn Galen: okay Warin, thanks for checking
[2009/11/25 16:37] Greybeard Thinker: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:37] Eryn Galen: lol Kally
[2009/11/25 16:37] Key Gruin: LOL@Kally \
[2009/11/25 16:37] Greybeard Thinker: living a bit remote like I do my roof makes this place look like some kind of spy base lol.
[2009/11/25 16:37] Adelle Fitzgerald: i completely agree Kally, abotu the yagi's that is
[2009/11/25 16:37] Starky Rubble: We don't seem to have actually gelled into a meeting Sarvana
[2009/11/25 16:38] Pennyroyal Skute: yagis rock
[2009/11/25 16:38] Greybeard Thinker: Neb still AFK?
[2009/11/25 16:38] Kally Rakan: neb, how do you read those sim meters?
[2009/11/25 16:38] Kally Rakan: it looks like one is good if it's empty and the other is good if it's full which is kinda confusing
[2009/11/25 16:38] Sarvana Cherry: hehe... was going to drive home and rejoin in about 30-45 minutes
[2009/11/25 16:38] Adelle Fitzgerald: they are a bigt more difficult to build then other antennas though, and from what i have seen in some reports, a bi-quad on a dish will go

way further than yagis, like 1mbps over 15km ;)
[2009/11/25 16:39] Adelle Fitzgerald: *bit
[2009/11/25 16:39] Pennyroyal Skute: yes but the beamwidth is very narrow with dishes
[2009/11/25 16:39] Adelle Fitzgerald: yes
[2009/11/25 16:39] Pennyroyal Skute: hard to align
[2009/11/25 16:39] Greybeard Thinker: that's good
[2009/11/25 16:39] Starky Rubble: Wifi doesn't like trees much tho - walnut or not
[2009/11/25 16:39] Jeeper Shim: I'm sure f/b ratio on a dish is gonna be better than a ayagi
[2009/11/25 16:39] Adelle Fitzgerald: thats what a compass and protractor is for :P
[2009/11/25 16:39] Greybeard Thinker: makes it hard for others to pirate from you.
[2009/11/25 16:39] Key Gruin: no it doesn't like tres
[2009/11/25 16:39] Key Gruin: trees
[2009/11/25 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: and spitit level of course
[2009/11/25 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: *spirit
[2009/11/25 16:40] Starky Rubble: laser
[2009/11/25 16:40] Jeeper Shim: yeah Penny. hard to aim
[2009/11/25 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: no wifi signal likes trees
[2009/11/25 16:40] Pennyroyal Skute: especially wet trees
[2009/11/25 16:40] Key Gruin: a cantenna is the most directional I assume
[2009/11/25 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: trees are real bad for wifi
[2009/11/25 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: a dish is more directional
[2009/11/25 16:40] Sarvana Cherry: lots of those around here tonight
[2009/11/25 16:40] Pennyroyal Skute: here too Sarvana
[2009/11/25 16:40] Greybeard Thinker: anything solid is bad for wifi
[2009/11/25 16:40] Jeeper Shim: big flashlight
[2009/11/25 16:40] Sarvana Cherry: raining all day
[2009/11/25 16:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: but the cantenna is prolly the most efficient for the size and cost
[2009/11/25 16:40] Starky Rubble: I was a wifi ISP in the California redwoods lol
[2009/11/25 16:41] Adelle Fitzgerald: water is terrible for sifi
[2009/11/25 16:41] Adelle Fitzgerald: wifi
[2009/11/25 16:41] Adelle Fitzgerald: bah
[2009/11/25 16:41] Key Gruin: 'glass too
[2009/11/25 16:41] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe more Vodka Adelle?
[2009/11/25 16:41] Starky Rubble: all those H'es and O'es
[2009/11/25 16:41] Key Gruin: lol
[2009/11/25 16:42] Adelle Fitzgerald: its the density of the material, and water is pretty dense
[2009/11/25 16:42] Kally Rakan whispers: urg, now I'm wondering how you'd go about making a cross-sim packet network in opensim using shouting scripts :P
[2009/11/25 16:42] Adelle Fitzgerald: you cant Kally
[2009/11/25 16:42] Warin Cascabel: Across the same sim, Kally, or from sim to sim?
[2009/11/25 16:42] Adelle Fitzgerald: shouting wont work across sim borders
[2009/11/25 16:42] Kally Rakan: ah
[2009/11/25 16:42] Warin Cascabel: Nope, gotta use offworld methods for that.
[2009/11/25 16:42] Kally Rakan: was just one of the weird ideas that pop into my head to weird me out :)
[2009/11/25 16:43] Eryn Galen: hehe Kally
[2009/11/25 16:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: there is no actual mechanism yet in place for cross sim prim comms
[2009/11/25 16:43] Pennyroyal Skute: lol Kally
[2009/11/25 16:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: except xmlrpc
[2009/11/25 16:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: which i dont know much about
[2009/11/25 16:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: a couple of people have gotten that to work just lately
[2009/11/25 16:44] Starky Rubble: hmmm actually its the hydrogen and oxygen and the wavelegth at 2.4, 5.9, and the like - thats why microwaves are so good at food
[2009/11/25 16:44] Kally Rakan: is it just me or is it weird that a virtual world has worse communications than the real world? :)
[2009/11/25 16:44] Starky Rubble: hee
[2009/11/25 16:44] Adelle Fitzgerald: its alpha Kally! :P)
[2009/11/25 16:44] Adelle Fitzgerald: hehe
[2009/11/25 16:44] Adelle Fitzgerald: it will come in time
[2009/11/25 16:44] Adelle Fitzgerald: the Linden grid uses e-mail
[2009/11/25 16:44] Jeeper Shim: brb
[2009/11/25 16:44] Aradox Pomeroy: does llRegionSay not work?
[2009/11/25 16:45] Kally Rakan: I know, it's just strange. Though there are all sorts of possibilities that the real world doesn't provide
[2009/11/25 16:45] Adelle Fitzgerald: we could implement e-mail here, but i fear its too risky being an open grid
[2009/11/25 16:45] Warin Cascabel: llRegionSay works, Aradox.
[2009/11/25 16:45] Adelle Fitzgerald: its ok in a closed grid environment
[2009/11/25 16:45] Adelle Fitzgerald: were talking abou cross region comms
[2009/11/25 16:45] Aradox Pomeroy: thank goodness - i tend to use it a lot in sl
[2009/11/25 16:45] Adelle Fitzgerald: or interregion...
[2009/11/25 16:45] WhiteStar Magic: Most of all teh llFunctions work
[2009/11/25 16:45] Aradox Pomeroy: ah
[2009/11/25 16:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: its late for me, my brain kinda stops working around this time
[2009/11/25 16:46] Aradox Pomeroy: a regionsay repeater pair at the boundary, to get into the next sim ?
[2009/11/25 16:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: no
[2009/11/25 16:46] Kally Rakan: all this talk about communications methods reminds me that we mentioned that a couple meetings ago
[2009/11/25 16:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: there is no comms to the next region whatsoever
[2009/11/25 16:46] WhiteStar Magic: you can send interprim messages
[2009/11/25 16:46] Kally Rakan: has anyone had any thoughts about that?
[2009/11/25 16:47] Adelle Fitzgerald: across regions, WS?
[2009/11/25 16:47] WhiteStar Magic: it's an osFunction
[2009/11/25 16:47] Warin Cascabel: I missed that meeting, Kally - can you give me a capsule summary?
[2009/11/25 16:47] Aradox Pomeroy: we cant use a pair of prims straddling the boundary?
[2009/11/25 16:47] WhiteStar Magic: I was looking at the code and I believe that it will work now
[2009/11/25 16:47] Adelle Fitzgerald: so i can send a message to a prim in my home region, from here?
[2009/11/25 16:47] Adelle Fitzgerald: bearing in mind my home region is over 500 grid cells away
[2009/11/25 16:47] Kally Rakan: it was just about how information and communication is scattered and isolated atm
[2009/11/25 16:48] Warin Cascabel: Aha.
[2009/11/25 16:48] Aradox Pomeroy: oh - interprim messages of what sort? working now?
[2009/11/25 16:48] Kally Rakan: think about how hard it is just to notify everyone about primwords :)
[2009/11/25 16:48] WhiteStar Magic: just need to setup a test for it
[2009/11/25 16:48] Warin Cascabel: Heh, true.
[2009/11/25 16:48] Adelle Fitzgerald: is there documentation for this, WS?
[2009/11/25 16:48] WhiteStar Magic: osMessageObjec
[2009/11/25 16:49] Eryn Galen: Hi nazaire
[2009/11/25 16:49] Aradox Pomeroy: by uuid alone?
[2009/11/25 16:49] Aradox Pomeroy: oh excellent
[2009/11/25 16:49] WhiteStar Magic: osMessageObject(key objectUUID,string message);
[2009/11/25 16:50] Aradox Pomeroy: excellent
[2009/11/25 16:50] Kally Rakan: is there a pull equivalent to that?
[2009/11/25 16:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: it doesnt specify if that is interregion or not though
[2009/11/25 16:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: sends a string to the object identified by objectId, the receiving object requires to implement the method dataserver( key queryid, string

data ) in a contained script(s). The queryid passed will be the id of the calling object.
[2009/11/25 16:51] Warin Cascabel: osMessageObject() isn't interregion, judging by the code.
[2009/11/25 16:51] Aradox Pomeroy: oh - using dataserver. is that implemented?
[2009/11/25 16:51] Warin Cascabel: Yes.
[2009/11/25 16:52] WhiteStar Magic: send a message to to object identified by the given UUID, a script in the object must implement the dataserver function

// the dataserver function is passed the ID of the calling function and a string message

[2009/11/25 16:52] WhiteStar Magic: and dataserver is functional
[2009/11/25 16:52] Adelle Fitzgerald: afaik, the only way to send prim to prim messages interregion is using xmlrpc
[2009/11/25 16:53] Aradox Pomeroy: via an external site? xmlrpc?
[2009/11/25 16:53] WhiteStar Magic: XMLRPC is certainly another method
[2009/11/25 16:53] Warin Cascabel: Or through a third-party script on a Web server (php or asp)
[2009/11/25 16:53] Adelle Fitzgerald: i think so Aradox, ive not looked into it properly yet
[2009/11/25 16:53] WhiteStar Magic: a Relay Server Warin ?
[2009/11/25 16:53] Key Gruin: this is getting a bit too technical for some of us methinks
[2009/11/25 16:53] WhiteStar Magic: This may not be so hard
[2009/11/25 16:53] Warin Cascabel: Right, WhiteStar.
[2009/11/25 16:54] WhiteStar Magic: get a freebie WebServer from something like X10 and drop teh PHP there
[2009/11/25 16:54] Kally Rakan: might be better to bug the devs with at the dev meeting? :)
[2009/11/25 16:54] Warin Cascabel: But anyway.
[2009/11/25 16:54] Key Gruin: speaking of devs
[2009/11/25 16:54] Key Gruin: so when are we getting back to load tests, I miss the party atmosphere-- the tests were fun
[2009/11/25 16:54] Eryn Galen: Im just wondering what its uses are Kally
[2009/11/25 16:54] Aradox Pomeroy: but doesnt an xmlrpc channel have to be initited in world, so to get a message you are not expecting, the object has to continually poll?
[2009/11/25 16:54] Eryn Galen: lol Key
[2009/11/25 16:55] Key Gruin: partying with the devs :)
[2009/11/25 16:55] Aradox Pomeroy: ive probably got that wrong
[2009/11/25 16:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: i heard Neb mention that he wanted to do another soon, maybe tomorrow?
[2009/11/25 16:55] Warin Cascabel: No polling necessary with XML-RPC, Aradox.
[2009/11/25 16:55] Key Gruin: cool :)
[2009/11/25 16:55] WhiteStar Magic: Actually Aradox, Hippo Finesmith just worked out a Sweet XMLRPC Relay system
[2009/11/25 16:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: hehe Neb's here
[2009/11/25 16:55] Aradox Pomeroy: yep - im misremembering i guess
[2009/11/25 16:56] Adelle Fitzgerald: Nebadon, you with us?
[2009/11/25 16:56] WhiteStar Magic: In-World Cross Region comms is pretty important for many aspects
[2009/11/25 16:56] Kally Rakan: hopefully we can avoid things like spam though
[2009/11/25 16:56] Sarvana Cherry: brb...
[2009/11/25 16:57] Kally Rakan: eryn, I expect a in-world comms network would have a lot of uses I can't even imagine. Like the Internet itself :)
[2009/11/25 16:57] WhiteStar Magic: Not only for distributoing info and potentially objects (like Vendor Delivery) but for things like the Rail Transit systems and Tour Systems
[2009/11/25 16:57] Adelle Fitzgerald: one of the main uses I know of in the Linden grid is for vendors
[2009/11/25 16:57] Adelle Fitzgerald: you only have to fill one server with objects and it can distribute them to several vendors around the grid
[2009/11/25 16:58] Eryn Galen: ahh, I see
[2009/11/25 16:58] WhiteStar Magic: I have a Beaconed Tour System I built in SL that inter-regions chats to Beacons
[2009/11/25 16:58] Eryn Galen: that could be useful for the newspaper ;-)
[2009/11/25 16:58] Adelle Fitzgerald: that can be anything from actual prim objects (furniture, clothes etc) to things like newspapers
[2009/11/25 16:58] WhiteStar Magic: I would love to adapt that mechanism for OS
[2009/11/25 16:58] Adelle Fitzgerald: exactly
[2009/11/25 16:59] Warin Cascabel: Cross-region intercoms would be another good use.
[2009/11/25 16:59] Eryn Galen: btw, talking about the newspaper
[2009/11/25 16:59] Adelle Fitzgerald: also other things, a friend of mine in SL created a 'mood' HUD
[2009/11/25 16:59] Eryn Galen: I wanted to addess ppl here if anyone would be interested in having a newspaper vendor on their region
[2009/11/25 16:59] Kally Rakan: in world automation and remote control
[2009/11/25 17:00] Adelle Fitzgerald: a few people wore them and when they logged in they shose what mood they were in, and it transmitted to the other online users that wore

the same HUDs
[2009/11/25 17:00] WhiteStar Magic: Ideally, it would be sweet to implement IM to Object
[2009/11/25 17:00] Adelle Fitzgerald: i never saw the point myself, but thats just one application of interregion comms
[2009/11/25 17:00] WhiteStar Magic: and with that ability IM could also gate material
[2009/11/25 17:00] Eryn Galen: welcome back Key
[2009/11/25 17:00] Key Gruin: thanks Eryn :)
[2009/11/25 17:00] Key Gruin: so only I crashed
[2009/11/25 17:00] Adelle Fitzgerald: yes WS, i think IM to object is THE way to do this
[2009/11/25 17:00] Eryn Galen: yep
[2009/11/25 17:01] Warin Cascabel: If the physical form of the vendor can be made to fit (aesthetically) into Quirm, Eryn, I'd be happy to have one there.
[2009/11/25 17:01] Kally Rakan: I think we discussed IM to npcs/bots before but IM to objects would be even more general
[2009/11/25 17:01] Eryn Galen: great :)
[2009/11/25 17:01] Eryn Galen: and yes, Warin, there will be several.
[2009/11/25 17:01] Aradox Pomeroy: sounss good
[2009/11/25 17:02] Pennyroyal Skute: sneaks a puff on one of Warin's cigarettes ;)
[2009/11/25 17:02] Eryn Galen: lolz Penny
[2009/11/25 17:02] Aradox Pomeroy: Could I briefly ask about Ninja Physics before the time is gone?
[2009/11/25 17:02] Warin Cascabel: I have cigarettes?
[2009/11/25 17:02] Jeeper Shim: cough cough
[2009/11/25 17:02] Warin Cascabel: Oh, so I do.
[2009/11/25 17:02] Aradox Pomeroy: It fascinates me, but I cant get it to work. I tried on my own land, and on Warin's, which i think he said had it activated.
[2009/11/25 17:02] Adelle Fitzgerald: youre hogging the ash tray, Warin :P
[2009/11/25 17:02] Pennyroyal Skute whispers: yes in front of you Warin ;P
[2009/11/25 17:02] Kally Rakan: actually, if the admins approve a vendor on some of the plazas would be good too
[2009/11/25 17:02] WhiteStar Magic: Hmmm... just thinking if there would be a way to Harness MRM or if maybe an osFunction set would be able to accomplish this
[2009/11/25 17:03] Starky Rubble: I never have traffic, lol, but sure
[2009/11/25 17:03] Pennyroyal Skute: lol Adelle
[2009/11/25 17:03] Eryn Galen: cool :))
[2009/11/25 17:03] Kally Rakan: my own regions tend to get wiped too often, not that there's anyone else there except me :)
[2009/11/25 17:03] Adelle Fitzgerald: Ninja physics may be broken with all the work that has gone in lately
[2009/11/25 17:03] Eryn Galen: and yes Kally, some of the plazas would be great
[2009/11/25 17:03] Aradox Pomeroy: who is the ninja physics expert?
[2009/11/25 17:04] Eryn Galen: lol Kally, I remember you saying
[2009/11/25 17:04] Adelle Fitzgerald: i dont think anyone in this room knows anything about it
[2009/11/25 17:04] Aradox Pomeroy: i just cant get it to work at all
[2009/11/25 17:04] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Zardoz
[2009/11/25 17:04] Simulator Version shouts: OpenSim 0.6.8 (Dev) git# d38f337 2009-10-20 14:41:20 -0700 (OS Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 ) ChilTasks:True PhysPrim:True
[2009/11/25 17:04] Eryn Galen: Hi Zardoz
[2009/11/25 17:04] WhiteStar Magic: Aradox, I don;t think anyone has tinkered with Ninja in quite a long time
[2009/11/25 17:04] Zardoz Firanelli: Hey Everyone
[2009/11/25 17:04] Key Gruin: I had never heard of it until just recently
[2009/11/25 17:04] Aradox Pomeroy: ah. all i have is that wonderful youtube video
[2009/11/25 17:04] Adelle Fitzgerald: hello Zardoz
[2009/11/25 17:04] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Zardoz.
[2009/11/25 17:04] Kally Rakan: submit a stack of bug reports :)
[2009/11/25 17:04] Kally Rakan: I think there's a wiki page on it?
[2009/11/25 17:05] Kally Rakan: hi zardoz
[2009/11/25 17:05] Jeeper Shim: Hi Zardoz
[2009/11/25 17:05] Adelle Fitzgerald: you could ask in the #opensim-dev IRC channel
[2009/11/25 17:05] Greybeard Thinker: Zardoz!
[2009/11/25 17:05] Key Gruin: opensim wiki, Kally?
[2009/11/25 17:05] Adelle Fitzgerald: but i wouldnt expect a massive response tbh
[2009/11/25 17:05] Kally Rakan: I think so
[2009/11/25 17:05] Zardoz Firanelli: Good to see you survived Greybeard
[2009/11/25 17:05] Greybeard Thinker: ty
[2009/11/25 17:05] Key Gruin: I looked at a video yesterday, kind of intriguing
[2009/11/25 17:05] Adelle Fitzgerald: http://opensimulator.org/index.php?title=NINJA_Physics
[2009/11/25 17:06] Key Gruin: ahh
[2009/11/25 17:06] Aradox Pomeroy: maybe if everybody dug out the youtube video of the ragdoll figures being run ovrer by the car -- we'd all be quite enthused about ninja

physics
[2009/11/25 17:06] Kally Rakan: just beat me to it adelle :)
[2009/11/25 17:06] Key Gruin: yeah that's what I looked at
[2009/11/25 17:06] Starky Rubble: Well Primfans, it's pumpkin time for this AV... see yaz all
[2009/11/25 17:06] Adelle Fitzgerald: :P
[2009/11/25 17:06] Key Gruin: g'night Starky
[2009/11/25 17:06] Pennyroyal Skute: bye Starky take care
[2009/11/25 17:06] Greybeard Thinker: ciao starky
[2009/11/25 17:06] Eryn Galen: see ya Starky :)
[2009/11/25 17:06] Warin Cascabel: Night, Starky
[2009/11/25 17:06] Adelle Fitzgerald: bye Starky
[2009/11/25 17:06] Kally Rakan: cya starky
[2009/11/25 17:06] Aradox Pomeroy: night starky
[2009/11/25 17:07] Aradox Pomeroy: warin - didnt you say you had played with it ?
[2009/11/25 17:07] Adelle Fitzgerald: are there any good builders in here with some time on their hands?
[2009/11/25 17:07] Aradox Pomeroy: that you had ninja physics switched on in your sims?
[2009/11/25 17:08] Greybeard Thinker: what you need built Adelle?
[2009/11/25 17:08] Aradox Pomeroy: I tried it in Quirm
[2009/11/25 17:08] Adelle Fitzgerald: one of our plazas needs a makeover
[2009/11/25 17:08] Eryn Galen: okay, Im not that good. lol
[2009/11/25 17:08] Adelle Fitzgerald: i was thinking of letting a team of people loose on it
[2009/11/25 17:08] Greybeard Thinker: what kind of makeover?
[2009/11/25 17:08] WhiteStar Magic: Which Plaza is teh target ?
[2009/11/25 17:08] Adelle Fitzgerald: the region is Seaprior
[2009/11/25 17:08] Warin Cascabel: I played with NINJA months ago, Aradox. Not sure if it's even still working.
[2009/11/25 17:08] Kally Rakan: I know how to make boxes and cylinders. I can even put textures on them :O
[2009/11/25 17:09] Eryn Galen: lol Kally
[2009/11/25 17:09] Greybeard Thinker: theme?
[2009/11/25 17:09] Pennyroyal Skute: I can "torture" prims lol
[2009/11/25 17:09] Adelle Fitzgerald: we are running out of homestead parcels fast, and i wanted to change Seaprior plaza to accomodate more homesteads
[2009/11/25 17:09] Adelle Fitzgerald: but also make it into a kinda 'green' sim
[2009/11/25 17:09] Greybeard Thinker: right
[2009/11/25 17:10] Eryn Galen: hehe, for "green" Grey is your man Adelle
[2009/11/25 17:10] WhiteStar Magic: ..
[2009/11/25 17:10] Greybeard Thinker: ty m'lady
[2009/11/25 17:10] WhiteStar Magic: That's a Standard region still yes ?
[2009/11/25 17:10] Pennyroyal Skute: Loman Totempole is doing some work with artificial lifeforms
[2009/11/25 17:10] Adelle Fitzgerald: with like a park for the community there, and, maybe a small pond, rocks, trees, somewhere that is very comfy
[2009/11/25 17:10] Key Gruin: Adelle, maybe hand out assignments?
[2009/11/25 17:10] Greybeard Thinker: OK
[2009/11/25 17:11] Adelle Fitzgerald: the downside to taking on such a task is that every component has to have full copyright granted to OSgrid Inc.
[2009/11/25 17:11] Key Gruin: I'll take on a project
[2009/11/25 17:11] Greybeard Thinker: time to fire up my home sim again and see what I can come up with as a demo then.
[2009/11/25 17:11] Zardoz Firanelli: I'm giving out plots to content creators if that helps at all
[2009/11/25 17:11] Adelle Fitzgerald: meaning that you would have to make pretty much all of the textures and objects in there, or obtain permissions in writing to use
[2009/11/25 17:11] Pennyroyal Skute: hi Dave !
[2009/11/25 17:11] Eryn Galen: thats no problem. Most of my stuff is full perm anyway. lo
[2009/11/25 17:11] Kally Rakan: would that be an irrevocable licence or a full copyright assignment?
[2009/11/25 17:11] Key Gruin: right np Adelle
[2009/11/25 17:11] Eryn Galen: Hi Dave
[2009/11/25 17:11] WhiteStar Magic: Why not try to have a Comminuty Build Week ? to feature it in a show case with the different contributors
[2009/11/25 17:12] Greybeard Thinker: most of mine I do myself in Gimp
[2009/11/25 17:12] Dave Coyle: hi
[2009/11/25 17:12] Greybeard Thinker: including land forms
[2009/11/25 17:12] Kally Rakan: hi dave
[2009/11/25 17:12] Greybeard Thinker: Hi Dave
[2009/11/25 17:12] Adelle Fitzgerald: if anyone does want to throw together any demos, please do and give me a shout
[2009/11/25 17:12] Key Gruin: or have contests, and judging
[2009/11/25 17:12] Dave Coyle: sorry i'm late
[2009/11/25 17:12] Key Gruin: hi Dave
[2009/11/25 17:12] Dave Coyle: holiday ate my brain
[2009/11/25 17:12] Pennyroyal Skute: hehe
[2009/11/25 17:12] Key Gruin: Warin got here before you
[2009/11/25 17:12] Greybeard Thinker: digs out and dusts off the old laptop test unit lol.
[2009/11/25 17:12] Key Gruin: :)
[2009/11/25 17:12] Adelle Fitzgerald: its just not good enough, Dave. :P
[2009/11/25 17:12] Eryn Galen: lol Key
[2009/11/25 17:12] Adelle Fitzgerald: hehe
[2009/11/25 17:12] Kally Rakan: better than zombies doing it :)
[2009/11/25 17:13] Kally Rakan wonders if the plaza will crash if both dave and warin turn up on time
[2009/11/25 17:13] Key Gruin: hee
[2009/11/25 17:13] Eryn Galen: rofl Kally
[2009/11/25 17:13] Pennyroyal Skute: grins
[2009/11/25 17:13] Greybeard Thinker: fastens seat belt just in case lol.
[2009/11/25 17:13] Dave Coyle: hey, today's the only time i've been late! ;)
[2009/11/25 17:13] Adelle Fitzgerald: if somone or a team do go ahead and make over the plaza they will ahve to incoroprate about 10 1024m2 parcels into it
[2009/11/25 17:14] Greybeard Thinker: OK
[2009/11/25 17:14] Adelle Fitzgerald: i would prefer a team tbh, so if you know anyone, get them to give me a shout
[2009/11/25 17:14] Warin Cascabel: Ha, Kally
[2009/11/25 17:14] Key Gruin: is there a specific plan in mind for the plaza?
[2009/11/25 17:14] Adelle Fitzgerald: and i will guarentee that your names appear on a plaque in that plaza, but that is about all i can offer for the work
[2009/11/25 17:14] Kally Rakan: adelle, would it be an irrevokable, full use licence or a copyright assignment?
[2009/11/25 17:15] Adelle Fitzgerald: a full license for that particular use
[2009/11/25 17:15] Greybeard Thinker: no worries this grid is fulltime home for me anyway.
[2009/11/25 17:15] Adelle Fitzgerald: and thing more granted would be nice for OSgrid :)
[2009/11/25 17:16] Adelle Fitzgerald: *anything
[2009/11/25 17:17] WhiteStar Magic: some basic specs as to design, Modern, Classic, Gothic etc... How many parcels need to remain open, designate "Puublic Space" etc would have

to be defined
[2009/11/25 17:17] Key Gruin: it would be a neat group project
[2009/11/25 17:17] Kally Rakan: probably something like the CC-BY licence?
[2009/11/25 17:17] Adelle Fitzgerald: the parcels would be filled by the people using them
[2009/11/25 17:17] Greybeard Thinker: just "give" it to OSGrid
[2009/11/25 17:18] Adelle Fitzgerald: so its just all the inbetween bits
[2009/11/25 17:18] Eryn Galen: yeah, could be cool
[2009/11/25 17:19] Kally Rakan: I'd just like to minimise the possibility of arguments and hard feelings if people later disagree with exactly what "give" means :)
[2009/11/25 17:19] Aradox Pomeroy: chatt died?
[2009/11/25 17:20] Greybeard Thinker: let it be known, I don't like lawyers and liscences
[2009/11/25 17:20] Greybeard Thinker: so "give"means "give".
[2009/11/25 17:20] Eryn Galen: hehe, little chance of that, Kally. "Give" means OSGrid can do anything they want with your stuff
[2009/11/25 17:20] WhiteStar Magic: ..
[2009/11/25 17:21] Key Gruin: well it should be for the particular purpose
[2009/11/25 17:21] Eryn Galen: No Key, they need to be able to adapt it to future needs
[2009/11/25 17:21] Kally Rakan: I don't like all the legal stuff either but it's better to know how to defend yourself with it than not :)
[2009/11/25 17:21] Aradox Pomeroy: is there a "its completely yours now and not mine at all" licence
[2009/11/25 17:21] Adelle Fitzgerald: it would be much better if each creator handed over a notecard specifying what their license is granting
[2009/11/25 17:22] Eryn Galen: hehe Aradox
[2009/11/25 17:22] Adelle Fitzgerald: i.e. I grant OSgrid a full irrevocable licence to do whatever they please with XXX
[2009/11/25 17:22] Kally Rakan: there's "work for hire" and "copyright assignment" that hands over copyright but I don't know if it's legal everywhere
[2009/11/25 17:22] Adelle Fitzgerald: or 'i grant a license for OSgrid to use XXX for teh purpose of YYY'
[2009/11/25 17:22] Kally Rakan: there's things like the MIT licence which is "Do what you want, just don't claim you wrote it" but that's for code
[2009/11/25 17:23] Key Gruin: that's what I was thinking
[2009/11/25 17:23] Greybeard Thinker: or, I bequeath this to OSGrid.org.
[2009/11/25 17:23] Adelle Fitzgerald: a personal license is sufficient
[2009/11/25 17:23] Kally Rakan: there's the Creative Commons licences which is probably best
[2009/11/25 17:23] Eryn Galen: Well, for my little part OSGrid can do whatever they want with my stuff, escept make money off of it.. and even that is negotiable in this case
[2009/11/25 17:23] Adelle Fitzgerald: for what we want and need
[2009/11/25 17:23] Kally Rakan: CC-BY is "Do anythign you like, just credit me"
[2009/11/25 17:23] Greybeard Thinker: CC is rubbish
[2009/11/25 17:24] Kally Rakan: eryn, that's a CC-BY-NC :)
[2009/11/25 17:24] Greybeard Thinker: never is obeyed
[2009/11/25 17:24] Aradox Pomeroy: gee - are you all planning masterworks ?
[2009/11/25 17:24] Eryn Galen: lol Kally dont think I´ll remember that
[2009/11/25 17:24] Adelle Fitzgerald: lol
[2009/11/25 17:24] Kally Rakan: it just means "credit me and don't make money off it" :)
[2009/11/25 17:24] Adelle Fitzgerald: no, no masterworks, so just a personal one-liner license would be sufficient i expect
[2009/11/25 17:24] Greybeard Thinker: and isn't valid in courts.
[2009/11/25 17:24] Eryn Galen: shrugs. Its the grid. I dont need credit
[2009/11/25 17:25] Adelle Fitzgerald: not everyone feels the way you do Eryn
[2009/11/25 17:25] Eryn Galen: sighs, I know Adelle
[2009/11/25 17:25] Kally Rakan: since when are they not valid in courts?
[2009/11/25 17:25] Aradox Pomeroy: how do you define "make money off it" ? its a snake pit, isnt it ?
[2009/11/25 17:25] WhiteStar Magic: As long as Lillibeth Filth does not show up screaming about something
[2009/11/25 17:25] Warin Cascabel Googles.
[2009/11/25 17:26] Eryn Galen: huh White? Thats an insider, right?
[2009/11/25 17:26] Greybeard Thinker: ask enough lawyers they'll take all your money and laugh all the way to their bank Kally.
[2009/11/25 17:26] WhiteStar Magic: Owner of TRU in SL
[2009/11/25 17:26] Greybeard Thinker: anyway the Plaza's are grid owned
[2009/11/25 17:26] Greybeard Thinker: and it's for the good of the grid not some personal sense of esteem.
[2009/11/25 17:26] Kally Rakan: http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/ has links to the full, scary, evil legal crap if you want to hurt your brain reading it :)
[2009/11/25 17:27] WhiteStar Magic: While the object itself is not a big deal, it also has to comply to teh the textures and materials used therein
[2009/11/25 17:27] Eryn Galen: I´ll just have to go photo-hunting
[2009/11/25 17:27] Eryn Galen: lol
[2009/11/25 17:27] Greybeard Thinker: and if I make my own it has nothing to do with anybody else who or what I give it to.
[2009/11/25 17:27] Eryn Galen: exactly
[2009/11/25 17:28] Aradox Pomeroy: We could have licence "bidding wars" with "total gift" as the gold standard
[2009/11/25 17:28] WhiteStar Magic: yep GreyBeard.... but in a case where someone builds an item, hands it to OSG and says Do What Ya Want, and it turns out teh Textures came

from TRU and they shit all over it, it becomes a problem.
[2009/11/25 17:29] Greybeard Thinker: like I said if i make my own?
[2009/11/25 17:29] Warin Cascabel: Graphically put, WhiteStar, but accurate.
[2009/11/25 17:29] Eryn Galen: sure White, thats true
[2009/11/25 17:29] WhiteStar Magic: TRU is Very Nasty and Noisy about things and they do not permit their Textures being moved to ANY Grid
[2009/11/25 17:29] Aradox Pomeroy: I tend to go around photographing my own textures. Makes walks more interesting.
[2009/11/25 17:29] Greybeard Thinker: same here Aradox
[2009/11/25 17:30] Aradox Pomeroy: Tho somtimes people thinkm I'm crazy
[2009/11/25 17:30] Kally Rakan: btw, if you give it to osgrid, as in give them the copyright then you will need osgrids permission to use the things you made
[2009/11/25 17:30] WhiteStar Magic: Textures R Us
[2009/11/25 17:30] Pennyroyal Skute: good night everyone, I need to go home
[2009/11/25 17:30] Greybeard Thinker: ty WS.
[2009/11/25 17:30] Greybeard Thinker: never heard of them.
[2009/11/25 17:30] Kally Rakan: 'night penny
[2009/11/25 17:30] Zardoz Firanelli: Good Night Penny
[2009/11/25 17:30] Greybeard Thinker: nn Penny
[2009/11/25 17:30] Pennyroyal Skute: ni ni all
[2009/11/25 17:30] WhiteStar Magic: Ni Ni Penny
[2009/11/25 17:30] Eryn Galen: night Penny :) have fun
[2009/11/25 17:30] Key Gruin: good night Penny
[2009/11/25 17:31] Aradox Pomeroy: night penny
[2009/11/25 17:31] Greybeard Thinker: who is TRU anyway WS?
[2009/11/25 17:31] Warin Cascabel: Goodnight, Penny
[2009/11/25 17:32] WhiteStar Magic: http://www.texturesrus.net/cms/front_content.php
[2009/11/25 17:32] Kally Rakan: Hmm, I wonder if I could patent my ability to derail conversations and sell it as a weapon
[2009/11/25 17:32] Key Gruin: a foghorn?
[2009/11/25 17:33] Key Gruin: Hi Rova, find a seat somewhere :)
[2009/11/25 17:33] Aradox Pomeroy: I prefer ninja physics lol
[2009/11/25 17:33] Greybeard Thinker: I'll go take my camera for a walk it's better that way.
[2009/11/25 17:33] Greybeard Thinker: nolawyers annoying me then
[2009/11/25 17:33] Eryn Galen: Hi Rova
[2009/11/25 17:33] Aradox Pomeroy: Or I would if I could get some. You knowledgeable on it, Dave ?
[2009/11/25 17:34] Kally Rakan: looking at the TRU site it looks like whoever wrote parts of it was kinda foaming at the mouth :)
[2009/11/25 17:34] Greybeard Thinker: HI Ro
[2009/11/25 17:34] WhiteStar Magic: Lillibeth DOES Foam at the Chops
[2009/11/25 17:34] Eryn Galen: lolz White
[2009/11/25 17:34] WhiteStar Magic: I've had MANY Encounters with that piece of work...
[2009/11/25 17:35] Eryn Galen: poor you White, from the sound of it
[2009/11/25 17:35] WhiteStar Magic: She was selling several Texture Packs which were NOT hers to sell
[2009/11/25 17:35] Key Gruin: I think we lost Ro
[2009/11/25 17:35] Dave Coyle: sorry
[2009/11/25 17:35] Dave Coyle: back
[2009/11/25 17:35] WhiteStar Magic: I got LL to doa Take Down on her for 500 or so textures
[2009/11/25 17:35] Dave Coyle: aradox: knowledgeable on what?
[2009/11/25 17:36] Greybeard Thinker: so TRU is a pirate base too huh?
[2009/11/25 17:36] Greybeard Thinker: lol.
[2009/11/25 17:36] Warin Cascabel: Hey, Dave
[2009/11/25 17:36] Aradox Pomeroy: ninja physics, dave, and its current state
[2009/11/25 17:36] WhiteStar Magic: no... just not that Bright in their time
[2009/11/25 17:36] Dave Coyle: i know precisely zero about ninja. sorry.
[2009/11/25 17:37] Aradox Pomeroy: no-one seems to know, and i cant get it to work other than a glimmer
[2009/11/25 17:37] Greybeard Thinker: well I don't venture into LL land so I don't worry about that.
[2009/11/25 17:37] WhiteStar Magic: Ninja = Black Guy in Funky Jammies
[2009/11/25 17:37] Kally Rakan: I so hate the use of terms like piracy and theft for copyright infringement -_-
[2009/11/25 17:37] Aradox Pomeroy: k, thanks - leaves plenty of scope then, huh?
[2009/11/25 17:38] Greybeard Thinker: only endemic net terms Kally.
[2009/11/25 17:38] Jeeper Shim: I have to run. See ya
[2009/11/25 17:38] Greybeard Thinker: ciao Jeep.
[2009/11/25 17:38] Zardoz Firanelli: Bye Jeeper
[2009/11/25 17:38] Greybeard Thinker: tc man
[2009/11/25 17:38] WhiteStar Magic: Anyways... teh specs for the project need to specify OpenSource or personally created textures ONLY
[2009/11/25 17:38] Key Gruin: seeya Jeeper
[2009/11/25 17:38] Warin Cascabel: Bye, Jeeper
[2009/11/25 17:38] Kally Rakan: yes, but using them for copyright infrinement was an invention by the big software and media companies
[2009/11/25 17:38] WhiteStar Magic: Night Jeeper
[2009/11/25 17:38] Kally Rakan: cya jeeper
[2009/11/25 17:38] Aradox Pomeroy: metoo - time to go
[2009/11/25 17:38] Warin Cascabel: Bye, Aradox
[2009/11/25 17:38] Aradox Pomeroy: bye everybody
[2009/11/25 17:38] Zardoz Firanelli: Bye
[2009/11/25 17:38] WhiteStar Magic: Night Aradox
[2009/11/25 17:39] Greybeard Thinker: night Aradox
[2009/11/25 17:39] Aradox Pomeroy: enjoyable meeting. byeeeee
[2009/11/25 17:39] Kally Rakan: 'night aradox
[2009/11/25 17:39] Greybeard Thinker: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*
[2009/11/25 17:39] Greybeard Thinker: Eryn my dearest
[2009/11/25 17:39] Greybeard Thinker: yeow
[2009/11/25 17:39] Eryn Galen: hehe, thanks love
[2009/11/25 17:39] Kally Rakan: that's enough ranting from me though :)
[2009/11/25 17:40] Key Gruin: wb Rova
[2009/11/25 17:40] Kally Rakan: adelle, just "green"? :)
[2009/11/25 17:40] Rova Marta: hi I have some tp problems sorry
[2009/11/25 17:41] Key Gruin: glad you could make it
[2009/11/25 17:41] Warin Cascabel: Hello, Rova
[2009/11/25 17:41] Rova Marta: hi Warin how are you
[2009/11/25 17:41] Rova Marta: hi everyone
[2009/11/25 17:41] Eryn Galen: wb. Rova
[2009/11/25 17:42] Greybeard Thinker: Hi again Ro.
[2009/11/25 17:42] Warin Cascabel: Can't complain, Rova. :)
[2009/11/25 17:42] Warin Cascabel: A bit chatlagged, though, apparently.
[2009/11/25 17:42] Eryn Galen: hehe, Warin, common problem
[2009/11/25 17:43] Rova Marta: hi Eryn
[2009/11/25 17:43] Eryn Galen: Hello again Rova
[2009/11/25 17:44] Warin Cascabel: test
[2009/11/25 17:44] Zardoz Firanelli: Has chat died?
[2009/11/25 17:45] WhiteStar Magic: I'm seeing it, time delayed
[2009/11/25 17:45] Greybeard Thinker: 5 by 5 here
[2009/11/25 17:45] Key Gruin: /drops a pin
[2009/11/25 17:45] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2009/11/25 17:45] Nebadon Izumi: i was afk
[2009/11/25 17:45] Kally Rakan: adelle, you said that homesteads are running out. Does that mean newcomers are increasing?
[2009/11/25 17:45] Kally Rakan: wb neb
[2009/11/25 17:45] WhiteStar Magic: Octrober 20th Binary here ? !
[2009/11/25 17:45] Greybeard Thinker: yeah Hi Neb
[2009/11/25 17:46] Kally Rakan: neb, those sim meters. Am I right that one of them is best when it shows empty and the other when it shows full?
[2009/11/25 17:46] Dave Coyle: i wouldn't trust the version reported in this region
[2009/11/25 17:46] Dave Coyle: it's been wrong before
[2009/11/25 17:46] Nebadon Izumi: ya the time dilation doesnt do much at the moment
[2009/11/25 17:46] Kally Rakan: ok
[2009/11/25 17:46] Nebadon Izumi: we are waiting for some new OSSL functions to be put in
[2009/11/25 17:47] Nebadon Izumi: so we can make more meters
[2009/11/25 17:47] Warin Cascabel: :)
[2009/11/25 17:47] Kally Rakan: I just thought it would be a bit confusing to have them behave in opposite directions
[2009/11/25 17:47] Nebadon Izumi: ya TimeDilation doesnt ever move
[2009/11/25 17:47] Nebadon Izumi: so its kind of pointless
[2009/11/25 17:47] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2009/11/25 17:47] Greybeard Thinker: lol
[2009/11/25 17:47] Kally Rakan: aha :)
[2009/11/25 17:47] Nebadon Izumi: i think we have it fixed at 1.0 currently
[2009/11/25 17:47] Nebadon Izumi: but eventually it will work proper im sure
[2009/11/25 17:48] Kally Rakan: when it's working, will it show a full cylinder when things are working perfectly?
[2009/11/25 17:48] Greybeard Thinker: you mean like tp with attachments does?
[2009/11/25 17:48] Nebadon Izumi: it can
[2009/11/25 17:48] Nebadon Izumi: its easyt to modify
[2009/11/25 17:50] Greybeard Thinker: thumbs through new book on programming in the key of C#
[2009/11/25 17:50] Greybeard Thinker: ty WS
[2009/11/25 17:50] Kally Rakan: I find it awkward when there's several readouts and some work one way and others a different way
[2009/11/25 17:50] WhiteStar Magic: YW GreyBeard
[2009/11/25 17:50] Key Gruin: gonna start up load tests again, Neb?
[2009/11/25 17:50] Kally Rakan: C# scares me :P
[2009/11/25 17:50] Greybeard Thinker: my isn't coding fraught with "it does not compute" lol.
[2009/11/25 17:51] Kally Rakan: "I'm sorry Greybeard, I can't let you do that"
[2009/11/25 17:52] Greybeard Thinker: but old Navy man believes in first one to die loses and I ain't dead yet so I will get this thing beat yet, lol.
[2009/11/25 17:52] Kally Rakan: bah, think I mangled that quote :P
[2009/11/25 17:52] Warin Cascabel: Pretty close, Kally.
[2009/11/25 17:52] Greybeard Thinker: heheeh HAL 9000 Kally?
[2009/11/25 17:52] Warin Cascabel: Just missed an "I'm afraid". :)
[2009/11/25 17:52] Kally Rakan: yep
[2009/11/25 17:53] Key Gruin: that smooth, scary-sweet voice of Ha
[2009/11/25 17:53] Greybeard Thinker: yep, AI ain't like "Whollyweird" thinks it is.
[2009/11/25 17:53] Key Gruin: Hal
[2009/11/25 17:53] Greybeard Thinker: oops Hollywood that nah I was right first time
[2009/11/25 17:54] Kally Rakan: hollywood also thinks that computer terminals use troglodyte 55 bold font in eye searing radioactive green
[2009/11/25 17:54] Greybeard Thinker: true.
[2009/11/25 17:55] Greybeard Thinker: at least my Linux terminals are a nice shade of Star Trek blue lol.
[2009/11/25 17:55] Zardoz Firanelli: Can I ask if there is a TOS for this grid?
[2009/11/25 17:55] Dave Coyle: at least in the movie swordfish they were running gnome
[2009/11/25 17:55] Greybeard Thinker: yes and no
[2009/11/25 17:55] Greybeard Thinker: lol.
[2009/11/25 17:55] Eryn Galen: hehe Dave
[2009/11/25 17:55] Key Gruin: treat your neighbors like you would like to be treated
[2009/11/25 17:55] Dave Coyle: zardoz: there is not a TOS. yet.
[2009/11/25 17:56] Greybeard Thinker: Key only swordfish I know is edible
[2009/11/25 17:56] Dave Coyle: but the motivating rule is "be nice"
[2009/11/25 17:56] Zardoz Firanelli: Well what I want to know is if gambling is OK or not
[2009/11/25 17:56] Kally Rakan: no official ToS but essentially don't be evil or someone will smack your head :)
[2009/11/25 17:56] Greybeard Thinker: no economy so
[2009/11/25 17:56] Zardoz Firanelli: That can all be worked out
[2009/11/25 17:56] Key Gruin: yeah you get banned if you screw up
[2009/11/25 17:57] Zardoz Firanelli: Exactly so, is gambling permitted, or not??
[2009/11/25 17:57] WhiteStar Magic: Online Gambling is Verbotten in Many Countries
[2009/11/25 17:57] Dave Coyle: zardoz: there's no answer to that question right now, unfortunately
[2009/11/25 17:57] Greybeard Thinker: and with no economy you gonna gamble for match sticks?
[2009/11/25 17:57] Key Gruin: it's not forbidden
[2009/11/25 17:57] Zardoz Firanelli: With Lindens
[2009/11/25 17:57] Greybeard Thinker: no economy here
[2009/11/25 17:58] Dave Coyle: TOS is still with lawyers i believe
[2009/11/25 17:59] Zardoz Firanelli: I'm just working on ways to get people here, and for the most part that seems to be a big attraction - the sl days before certain

activities were shut down
[2009/11/25 17:59] WhiteStar Magic: how do you intend to Gamble with L$ in OSG ?\
[2009/11/25 17:59] Kally Rakan: since people can run their own sims I'd expect things to be more flexible
[2009/11/25 17:59] Greybeard Thinker: why do you think Linden's shut it down?
[2009/11/25 17:59] Zardoz Firanelli: By placing Lindens in escrow
[2009/11/25 17:59] Adelle Fitzgerald: for now, i would go with the theory that if you uncertain in any way, dont do it
[2009/11/25 17:59] Kally Rakan: LL is responsible for what happens on their systems
[2009/11/25 17:59] Adelle Fitzgerald: until we get the ToS from the lawyers
[2009/11/25 18:00] WhiteStar Magic: OSG is Hosted in USA and is Subject to it's laws
[2009/11/25 18:00] Dave Coyle: whitestar: you don't know what the grid is subject to
[2009/11/25 18:00] WhiteStar Magic: if YOU have a Sim and it's hosted in Paraguay and they allow that sort of thing, then have fun
[2009/11/25 18:00] Key Gruin: you can start your own grid
[2009/11/25 18:00] Dave Coyle: that's an unanswered legal question
[2009/11/25 18:00] Zardoz Firanelli: and if the sims are located in somepace that gambling is permitted, as well as the escrow servers?
[2009/11/25 18:00] Greybeard Thinker: and is a non profit so it is under scrutiny by the feds and treasury
[2009/11/25 18:00] Key Gruin: you don't need Osgrid
[2009/11/25 18:01] Key Gruin: or do it on a standalone
[2009/11/25 18:01] Key Gruin: you don't need to be part of OSgrid to do what you want
[2009/11/25 18:01] WhiteStar Magic: That is the best approach Key
[2009/11/25 18:01] Samantha Fuller: Thats what hypergrid is for
[2009/11/25 18:01] Greybeard Thinker: agress with Key and WS whole heartedly
[2009/11/25 18:01] Key Gruin: right
[2009/11/25 18:02] Key Gruin: then you are responsible for what ever the consequences will be if any
[2009/11/25 18:02] Kally Rakan: I hope the ToS will make it clear that what sim owners do with their sims is their own responsibility
[2009/11/25 18:02] WhiteStar Magic: and Dave, OSG is a California USA org and therefore under International and US Law, it must abide by US Law and cali Laws where applicable
[2009/11/25 18:03] Dave Coyle: whitestar: you're missing the point. we don't know what osgrid is responsible for, and what region operators are responsible for.
[2009/11/25 18:03] Kally Rakan: whitestar, allowing connections from a sim isn't quite the same as running it so the applicable laws could be different
[2009/11/25 18:03] Zardoz Firanelli: Thats why I was aking
[2009/11/25 18:03] Zardoz Firanelli: asking
[2009/11/25 18:03] Eryn Galen: geez, Kally, are you a laywer?
[2009/11/25 18:04] Key Gruin: well Osgrid provides a service to region owners
[2009/11/25 18:04] Samantha Fuller: also whoes sever the assets are on is a factor
[2009/11/25 18:04] Kally Rakan: no, I just have a morbid fascination with how laws can screw people over :P
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[2009/11/25 18:04] WhiteStar Magic: OSG is a Service Provider with that intent
[2009/11/25 18:04] Greybeard Thinker: here in Australia it is highly illegeal to attempt to make profit on the back of a non profit organisation like OSGrid.org.
[2009/11/25 18:04] Greybeard Thinker: don't know about US laws.
[2009/11/25 18:05] Key Gruin: lag is awful
[2009/11/25 18:05] Warin Cascabel: There is no legal precedent for OSgrid's situation yet. There are analogous situations, but no actual case law. It's kind of pointless to

speculate about it right now.
[2009/11/25 18:05] WhiteStar Magic: Same here in Canada..... Greybeard
[2009/11/25 18:05] Greybeard Thinker: ty WS.
[2009/11/25 18:05] Kally Rakan: it'll depend on how it's viewed. Is it a carrier or a service provider and if a service provider, what service exactly is it?
[2009/11/25 18:05] Greybeard Thinker: means 10 to 20 in jail if you do try Zardoz.
[2009/11/25 18:05] WhiteStar Magic: but our Judiial Systems are similar Greybeard... US a slightly different
[2009/11/25 18:05] Adelle Fitzgerald: WS OSgrid is more than just a servce provider
[2009/11/25 18:06] Adelle Fitzgerald: it is also storage
[2009/11/25 18:06] Zardoz Firanelli: Not in Canada it doesn't
[2009/11/25 18:06] WhiteStar Magic: and that is part of it's service
[2009/11/25 18:06] Greybeard Thinker: WS we are both Commonwealth nations mate
[2009/11/25 18:06] WhiteStar Magic: yep
[2009/11/25 18:06] Kally Rakan: ISPs supply storage too and they have common carrier status
[2009/11/25 18:07] Adelle Fitzgerald: OSgrid doesnt have that status
[2009/11/25 18:07] Warin Cascabel: There is no case law which guarantees OSgrid the same protections as an ISP. It is pointless to speculate at this time.
[2009/11/25 18:07] Adelle Fitzgerald: at least to my knowledge
[2009/11/25 18:07] WhiteStar Magic: Zardoz, bottom line, if you have to "ask teh Question" then consider that simple fact
[2009/11/25 18:07] Key Gruin: I think it would be a fairly easy decicsion to not allow gambling
[2009/11/25 18:07] Kally Rakan: no, but it's an example of just how murky this area is
[2009/11/25 18:07] Warin Cascabel: Easy decision, difficult to enforce, Key.
[2009/11/25 18:07] Eryn Galen: true Warin
[2009/11/25 18:07] WhiteStar Magic: Build an HG Enabled StandAlone or Grid and knock yourself out
[2009/11/25 18:07] Key Gruin: once a concrete TOS is in place even?
[2009/11/25 18:07] Greybeard Thinker: agrees with WS
[2009/11/25 18:08] Zardoz Firanelli: Got it, will see how it goes
[2009/11/25 18:08] Key Gruin: storage is a service
[2009/11/25 18:08] Zardoz Firanelli: Yes, they should be stated.
[2009/11/25 18:08] Adelle Fitzgerald: dependant upon terms, Key
[2009/11/25 18:08] Kally Rakan: the question is if OSGrid can be held responsible for what happens on someones elses sim, in someone elses country
[2009/11/25 18:09] Samantha Fuller: Still the question of do we allow Advertizing for HG-standalones that are gambling dens
[2009/11/25 18:09] Dave Coyle: kally: that's an unanswered question
[2009/11/25 18:09] Greybeard Thinker: like any organisation Kally OSGrid,org has the right to it's own constitution and to enforce it as well.
[2009/11/25 18:10] WhiteStar Magic: Samantha, there are HG Enabled Gambling Installations out there already
[2009/11/25 18:10] Greybeard Thinker: so use them not this donation funded grid.
[2009/11/25 18:10] Zardoz Firanelli: So my point is that there should be some rules that state simply that you can't do anything that is illeagal under US Law.
[2009/11/25 18:11] Greybeard Thinker: there are, it's called US Law.
[2009/11/25 18:11] Dave Coyle: zardoz: when there's a TOS i'm sure issues like that will be addressed.
[2009/11/25 18:11] Samantha Fuller: Yes but do we allow Blantant Entry Portals from here
[2009/11/25 18:11] Adelle Fitzgerald: as far as advertising goes, i would say that you can advertise what you want, as long as you have the region owners permission, and that

the advertising is legal for the place in which it is hosted, but AINAL, so take that with a pinch of salt
[2009/11/25 18:11] WhiteStar Magic: Anyone can Teleport via HG to wherver they chose
[2009/11/25 18:11] Zardoz Firanelli: Which does not apply to most of the planet though ;)
[2009/11/25 18:11] Key Gruin: Zardoz, those rules aren't necessary if they can just be implied
[2009/11/25 18:11] Key Gruin: as they should be
[2009/11/25 18:12] Dave Coyle: zardoz: in SL, for example, by using the service you agree to the jurisdiction of the courts of the state of california.
[2009/11/25 18:12] Dave Coyle: regardless of where you live
[2009/11/25 18:12] Zardoz Firanelli: OK thanks, I just needed to get that cleared up, because it had been asked of me.
[2009/11/25 18:12] Greybeard Thinker: looking forward to the distributed servers coming over here to OZ
[2009/11/25 18:12] Greybeard Thinker: then OUR laws aplly
[2009/11/25 18:12] Adelle Fitzgerald: as I said earlier, for now, if you are unsure of anything its probably best not to do it
[2009/11/25 18:12] Kally Rakan: SL isn't in the same situation since they don't have sims in their grid run by other entities in other jurisdictions
[2009/11/25 18:14] Zardoz Firanelli: I know, but I can't control what someone does with one of my sims that I rent to them without stating before hand what the rules are, which

is why I am asking.
[2009/11/25 18:14] Key Gruin: you make your own TOS
[2009/11/25 18:14] WhiteStar Magic: you can have your own TOS for your regions
[2009/11/25 18:14] Adelle Fitzgerald: taht is something i was thinking about earlier today, for my own regions
[2009/11/25 18:15] Greybeard Thinker: or your own mini grid.
[2009/11/25 18:15] Greybeard Thinker: HG enabled
[2009/11/25 18:15] Zardoz Firanelli: I was going to use the covenant, and I will leave it at that then
[2009/11/25 18:15] WhiteStar Magic: and at minimum protect yourself a bit by stating that anything on these regions must Comply with teh Laws of XXX Country (where you are

running them) and International Laws as Stated by teh UN & Geneva Concventions
[2009/11/25 18:15] Dave Coyle: unless you're a lawyer, specifically an american lawyer who focuses on technology issues, specifically technology issues related to the

responsibilities of service providers, you're not qualified to offer advice on the subject.
[2009/11/25 18:16] Dave Coyle: (as to what is/is not permitted in the grid)
[2009/11/25 18:16] Adelle Fitzgerald: Dave, can we get one of those? hehe
[2009/11/25 18:16] Adelle Fitzgerald: for these meetings?
[2009/11/25 18:16] Key Gruin looks for his "I'll shut up now" t-shirt
[2009/11/25 18:16] Dave Coyle: regions hosted in other countries have a whole host of other legal issues, too
[2009/11/25 18:17] WhiteStar Magic: quite a messs with this type of setup
[2009/11/25 18:17] Dave Coyle: but i think it's safe to assume no one here is such a lawyer, so we should move on instead of playing armchair attorney.
[2009/11/25 18:17] Adelle Fitzgerald: its not a mess, its just complex
[2009/11/25 18:17] WhiteStar Magic: cause we are all over the globe
[2009/11/25 18:17] Zardoz Firanelli: Ok so for now, I am safe to say no gambling, child porn, content theft , be a good neighbor and I should be for the most part not

contributing to the degredation of the grid by renting sims on those grounds?
[2009/11/25 18:18] Greybeard Thinker: agreed
[2009/11/25 18:18] WhiteStar Magic: sounds good
[2009/11/25 18:18] Eryn Galen: yes Zardoz
[2009/11/25 18:18] Adelle Fitzgerald: hokay, so who has seen anything good in the grid over the past week?
[2009/11/25 18:18] Zardoz Firanelli: Perfect, that works for me
[2009/11/25 18:18] Adelle Fitzgerald: :P
[2009/11/25 18:18] Samantha Fuller: We have to reconize that we are way out on the frontier Legealy and the law hasen't been written yet and how we act will have an effect on

what eventualy gets written
[2009/11/25 18:18] Dave Coyle: oh, what's the word on that osgrid newspaper?
[2009/11/25 18:19] Key Gruin: yeah, newspaper!
[2009/11/25 18:19] Key Gruin: :)
[2009/11/25 18:19] Adelle Fitzgerald: i think its still in its organizational stage
[2009/11/25 18:19] Key Gruin: yup
[2009/11/25 18:19] Greybeard Thinker: the first proofs I aw are good
[2009/11/25 18:19] WhiteStar Magic: we need something to roll our Prim Fish in
[2009/11/25 18:19] Adelle Fitzgerald: form what i have heard anyway, which isnt much
[2009/11/25 18:19] Warin Cascabel pokes Eryn.
[2009/11/25 18:19] Kally Rakan: heh whitestar, I was just thinking that :)
[2009/11/25 18:19] Dave Coyle: is it an in-world thing like The Ruth? or on a website?
[2009/11/25 18:19] Dave Coyle: we could use a good prim trout
[2009/11/25 18:19] Adelle Fitzgerald: i think its going to be in-world
[2009/11/25 18:20] Key Gruin: still in the planning stage
[2009/11/25 18:20] Warin Cascabel: Eryn showed me a pic of the vendor, so I assume it'll be inworld.
[2009/11/25 18:20] Adelle Fitzgerald: though i dont think there are any members of the newspaper here tonight
[2009/11/25 18:20] WhiteStar Magic: The Ruth was a good idea, just a little too early
[2009/11/25 18:20] Greybeard Thinker: I think I have a nice rainbow trout texture some place Key
[2009/11/25 18:20] Dave Coyle: there were no press pass applications for this meeting
[2009/11/25 18:20] Key Gruin: Eryn and I are part of the newspaper team
[2009/11/25 18:20] Dave Coyle: ;)
[2009/11/25 18:20] Kally Rakan: it's just as well it's not ready yet or we'd be seeing an article about a huge dust up in bade over fine legal points ;)
[2009/11/25 18:20] Adelle Fitzgerald: are there eny members of the newspaper here tonight?
[2009/11/25 18:20] Adelle Fitzgerald: *any
[2009/11/25 18:21] Key Gruin: Yes Adelle, Eryn and I
[2009/11/25 18:21] Samantha Fuller: i found a particle fish emitter but the settings need reworked
[2009/11/25 18:21] Eryn Galen: Key and me, yes
[2009/11/25 18:21] Adelle Fitzgerald: ahh cool
[2009/11/25 18:21] WhiteStar Magic: Flexi Sculpt Prim Trout
[2009/11/25 18:21] Adelle Fitzgerald: if you want...
[2009/11/25 18:21] Greybeard Thinker: erm flexi scupt? WS?
[2009/11/25 18:21] Greybeard Thinker: tricky them.
[2009/11/25 18:21] Dave Coyle: yeah, i was thinking more of a flexi trout. so we can use it to slap each other.
[2009/11/25 18:21] Greybeard Thinker: hehehe
[2009/11/25 18:21] Adelle Fitzgerald: i would be willing to set some time aside to make different styles of vendor so it suits different peoples sims
[2009/11/25 18:21] Kally Rakan: then it has to be a big trout dave
[2009/11/25 18:21] Warin Cascabel makes a note to do up a fish slapping dance animation.
[2009/11/25 18:21] Kally Rakan: a large trout
[2009/11/25 18:22] Eryn Galen: Cool, Adelle :)
[2009/11/25 18:22] Greybeard Thinker: a large WET trout
[2009/11/25 18:22] WhiteStar Magic: Well.. it could even be delivered as osDynamicTextures to a panel
[2009/11/25 18:22] Dave Coyle: but isn't that the magic of virtual worlds? that we can have a 6 foot trout?
[2009/11/25 18:22] Adelle Fitzgerald: also that way, i could make vendors that fitted in with our plaza regions here
[2009/11/25 18:22] Key Gruin: we have two vendor styles so far,
[2009/11/25 18:22] Eryn Galen: I made one already and Oddy as well, but I would gladly speak to Bolle about your offer :)
[2009/11/25 18:22] Dave Coyle: warin: yes
[2009/11/25 18:22] Dave Coyle: !
[2009/11/25 18:22] Key Gruin: one from Eryn and one from Oddball
[2009/11/25 18:22] Samantha Fuller: i found you can create deep oceans (below 0 m) someone neeeds to push the tecnical boundries and create a big build there
[2009/11/25 18:22] Kally Rakan: a 6 foot trout that laughs hysterically at the person you slap? ;)
[2009/11/25 18:22] Greybeard Thinker: and using JST's Book Prim script
[2009/11/25 18:23] Eryn Galen: been there, done that Samantha, hehe
[2009/11/25 18:23] Adelle Fitzgerald: below 0m though the water gets real muggy
[2009/11/25 18:23] Greybeard Thinker: below the water is not good here
[2009/11/25 18:23] Samantha Fuller: Lights:)
[2009/11/25 18:23] Dave Coyle: raise the water to 100m?
[2009/11/25 18:23] Greybeard Thinker: hates all black terrain underwater
[2009/11/25 18:23] Kally Rakan: I was wondering if someone had done a multi level sim here, with underwater, surface and floating areas
[2009/11/25 18:23] Adelle Fitzgerald: i mean real muggy
[2009/11/25 18:23] Adelle Fitzgerald: realy realy muggy hehe
[2009/11/25 18:24] Eryn Galen: hehe Adelle
[2009/11/25 18:24] Adelle Fitzgerald: a tip btw, for those that like to build underwater, use fullbright for yout textures ;)
[2009/11/25 18:24] Key Gruin: I had a 200 ft deep ocean
[2009/11/25 18:24] Kally Rakan: the muggy deeps would be a good place for a "Terror from the Deeps!" setting
[2009/11/25 18:24] Greybeard Thinker: can we hang devs by thumbs till black underwater is fixed?
[2009/11/25 18:24] Adelle Fitzgerald: and fish slapping?
[2009/11/25 18:24] Adelle Fitzgerald: hehe
[2009/11/25 18:24] Eryn Galen: yes Key, I remember coming out of a tp at the bottom. lol
[2009/11/25 18:24] Greybeard Thinker: terrains are terrible
[2009/11/25 18:25] Key Gruin: oh yeah Eryn LOL
[2009/11/25 18:25] Samantha Fuller: We also need a code of conduct for reworking & transfering freebes
[2009/11/25 18:25] Warin Cascabel: Well, once server-side Windlight settings are implemented, underwater builds can be a lot more aesthetically pleasing.
[2009/11/25 18:25] Dave Coyle wonders if you wan raise the water level to 20,000 leagues
[2009/11/25 18:25] Dave Coyle: s/wan/can/
[2009/11/25 18:25] Greybeard Thinker: ty Warin
[2009/11/25 18:25] Adelle Fitzgerald: what is one league?
[2009/11/25 18:25] Eryn Galen: yeah, that would be cool Warin
[2009/11/25 18:25] Greybeard Thinker: we can set region water hieght yes
[2009/11/25 18:25] Kally Rakan: omg, now I have the gozilla cartoon theme playing in my head. Thanks dave :P
[2009/11/25 18:25] Samantha Fuller: The landscaping brushes dont work right below 0 m
[2009/11/25 18:26] Key Gruin: have to go folks, seeya all
[2009/11/25 18:26] Warin Cascabel: Bye, Key
[2009/11/25 18:26] Greybeard Thinker: 3 miles around about for 1 league
[2009/11/25 18:26] Eryn Galen: bye Key, tc
[2009/11/25 18:26] Kally Rakan: cya key
[2009/11/25 18:26] Adelle Fitzgerald: 3mile!
[2009/11/25 18:26] Adelle Fitzgerald: wow
[2009/11/25 18:26] Greybeard Thinker: yep
[2009/11/25 18:26] Adelle Fitzgerald: bye Key
[2009/11/25 18:26] Zardoz Firanelli: I'm off too, thanks everyone and good night.
[2009/11/25 18:26] Eryn Galen: bye Zardoz
[2009/11/25 18:26] Dave Coyle: g;night
[2009/11/25 18:26] Adelle Fitzgerald: bye Zardoz
[2009/11/25 18:26] Greybeard Thinker: ask old time sailor he's sail many a league
[2009/11/25 18:26] WhiteStar Magic: Good Night
[2009/11/25 18:26] Warin Cascabel: Bye, Zardoz
[2009/11/25 18:26] Warin Cascabel: Good night, WhiteStar
[2009/11/25 18:26] Greybeard Thinker: g-night Zardoz
[2009/11/25 18:27] WhiteStar Magic: That was to Zardoz
[2009/11/25 18:27] Warin Cascabel: Ah, OK
[2009/11/25 18:27] Eryn Galen: wb. World
[2009/11/25 18:27] Greybeard Thinker: Hi world
[2009/11/25 18:27] Adelle Fitzgerald: so, anyone seen or done anything else good on this grid in the past week?
[2009/11/25 18:27] World Star: :-9
[2009/11/25 18:27] Greybeard Thinker: my regions are still up, does that count? lol.
[2009/11/25 18:27] Eryn Galen: sure
[2009/11/25 18:27] Adelle Fitzgerald whispers: it does :)
[2009/11/25 18:27] WhiteStar Magic: LOL
[2009/11/25 18:27] Kally Rakan: I managed to not destroy my sim this week
[2009/11/25 18:28] Dave Coyle: i rezzed a new plywood cube
[2009/11/25 18:28] Eryn Galen: made a whole collection of Hawaiian stuff, lol
[2009/11/25 18:28] Adelle Fitzgerald: I made a neat texture viewer/vendor thing, available int eh general store ;)
[2009/11/25 18:28] Eryn Galen: wow Kally, a first
[2009/11/25 18:28] WhiteStar Magic: I finally hit teh collision issue to a workable solution with scripts
[2009/11/25 18:28] Greybeard Thinker: yes, and nice work to Eryn
[2009/11/25 18:28] Eryn Galen: ty love:)
[2009/11/25 18:28] Greybeard Thinker: yay WS
[2009/11/25 18:28] Dave Coyle: eryn: is your stuff on display anywhere?
[2009/11/25 18:28] Warin Cascabel: I really didn't make it out much this week. :)
[2009/11/25 18:28] Eryn Galen: not yet, just finished it
[2009/11/25 18:28] Greybeard Thinker: only available at Pitcairn Key
[2009/11/25 18:28] Adelle Fitzgerald: but you did make it out at some point, Warin?
[2009/11/25 18:29] Warin Cascabel: Sure, I came here. :)
[2009/11/25 18:29] Adelle Fitzgerald: cool! positive!
[2009/11/25 18:29] Eryn Galen: lol Warin
[2009/11/25 18:29] Adelle Fitzgerald: :P
[2009/11/25 18:29] Greybeard Thinker: Eryn's latest is a bit region specific for going Troppo lol.
[2009/11/25 18:30] Greybeard Thinker: And Warin did look splendid in grass skirt and tophat I must say.
[2009/11/25 18:30] Greybeard Thinker: lol.
[2009/11/25 18:30] Warin Cascabel: Ha
[2009/11/25 18:30] Adelle Fitzgerald: hey, if any of you over the next week, see or find anything cool, make a note, make a landmark and bring it with ya next week
[2009/11/25 18:30] Eryn Galen: hehhe
[2009/11/25 18:30] Warin Cascabel: OK
[2009/11/25 18:30] Eryn Galen: sure
[2009/11/25 18:31] Adelle Fitzgerald: i think it would be nice to ahve 5 or 10 mins at the end of each meeting doing the 'good stuff' and we can share things
[2009/11/25 18:31] Warin Cascabel: Sounds fun.
[2009/11/25 18:31] Dave Coyle: good idea
[2009/11/25 18:31] Eryn Galen: good idea Adelle :)
[2009/11/25 18:32] Samantha Fuller: dose anyone have a free grass skirt & posibly one of those Hawian flower wreath things
[2009/11/25 18:32] Eryn Galen: sure do
[2009/11/25 18:32] Eryn Galen: come to pitcairn ;-)
[2009/11/25 18:33] Samantha Fuller: will do
[2009/11/25 18:33] Eryn Galen: I´ll have the vendor ready probably tomorrow
[2009/11/25 18:33] Sarvana Cherry: back... had to drive home from work.
[2009/11/25 18:33] Warin Cascabel: Welcome back, Sarvana
[2009/11/25 18:34] Cot: Script running
[2009/11/25 18:34] Eryn Galen: lol, is someone sleepy?
[2009/11/25 18:34] Warin Cascabel: Don't mind me, just trying to put in a lie target. :)
[2009/11/25 18:34] Sarvana Cherry: do you actually sleep in here? hehe
[2009/11/25 18:35] Dave Coyle: he said he doesn't get out much
[2009/11/25 18:35] Dave Coyle: maybe he does
[2009/11/25 18:35] Warin Cascabel: Heh :)
[2009/11/25 18:35] Adelle Fitzgerald: i really need ot make a sculptie of a sleep pose i have so i can make covers that fit me, then i can sleep here
[2009/11/25 18:35] Adelle Fitzgerald: :P
[2009/11/25 18:35] Hiro Protagonist: How we doin'
[2009/11/25 18:35] Warin Cascabel: Ha :)
[2009/11/25 18:35] Warin Cascabel: Hey, Hiro!
[2009/11/25 18:36] Adelle Fitzgerald: hey Hiro :)
[2009/11/25 18:36] Samantha Fuller: Hiro you need a rebake
[2009/11/25 18:36] Eryn Galen: lol Dave
[2009/11/25 18:36] Hiro Protagonist: lol so what else is new !
[2009/11/25 18:36] Greybeard Thinker: Hey Hiro San
[2009/11/25 18:36] Hiro Protagonist: that should help ;D
[2009/11/25 18:36] Hiro Protagonist: Heya Grebeard
[2009/11/25 18:36] Kally Rakan: I think hiro has a special viewer with an "Unbake" command
[2009/11/25 18:36] Dave Coyle: hi hiro
[2009/11/25 18:36] Warin Cascabel: Ha, Kally
[2009/11/25 18:36] Hiro Protagonist: Greybeard even
[2009/11/25 18:37] Hiro Protagonist: Hiya Dave
[2009/11/25 18:37] Adelle Fitzgerald: oh, im on the scrounge again... if anyone can knock up a few sit poses for this place, please do, it would be very appreciated!
[2009/11/25 18:37] Hiro Protagonist: you need to talk to Christy Lock
[2009/11/25 18:37] Adelle Fitzgerald: just make sure the head moces freely
[2009/11/25 18:37] Kally Rakan: hiro, I have to ask. Are you wearing a grey skin and such?
[2009/11/25 18:37] Warin Cascabel: Oh, I've got one for you, Adelle. Just a sec.
[2009/11/25 18:37] Hiro Protagonist: no, I'm actually wearing some clothes Kally ;)
[2009/11/25 18:38] Adelle Fitzgerald: cool :)
[2009/11/25 18:38] Kally Rakan: grey clothes? :)
[2009/11/25 18:38] Hiro Protagonist: and a fairly realistic skin I kyped from Retro Dan
[2009/11/25 18:38] Adelle Fitzgerald: Hiro is always grey for a good couple of minutes
[2009/11/25 18:38] Hiro Protagonist: nope
[2009/11/25 18:38] Adelle Fitzgerald: :P
[2009/11/25 18:38] Kally Rakan: ah, ok :)
[2009/11/25 18:38] Warin Cascabel gave you Bade Lounge Chair 1.
[2009/11/25 18:38] Adelle Fitzgerald: thanks Warin :)
[2009/11/25 18:38] Hiro Protagonist: it's cuz all mah stuff is soooooo far back in the back of the tables
[2009/11/25 18:38] Entering god mode, level 255
[2009/11/25 18:38] Kally Rakan: I'd just remembered that oddball had made a grey skin to mess with peoples heads :)
[2009/11/25 18:38] Sarvana Cherry: hehe
[2009/11/25 18:39] Hiro Protagonist: yeah lol a bunch of us did that in SL once
[2009/11/25 18:39] Hiro Protagonist: went and hung out at the WA raising hell and claiming our clothes looked fine
[2009/11/25 18:39] Eryn Galen: Hi Boxy and Trex :)
[2009/11/25 18:39] Greybeard Thinker: nice camp cot whoever made it btw.
[2009/11/25 18:39] WhiteStar Magic gave you Female SITS.
[2009/11/25 18:39] Boxster Karu: hi Eryn
[2009/11/25 18:39] Warin Cascabel: THanks
[2009/11/25 18:39] Hiro Protagonist: thats when they started doing the 'MISSING TEXTURE' texture
[2009/11/25 18:39] WhiteStar Magic: Those are in Test Stands
[2009/11/25 18:39] Greybeard Thinker: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*
[2009/11/25 18:39] Greybeard Thinker: liebchen
[2009/11/25 18:39] Eryn Galen: ty. server reboot. lol
[2009/11/25 18:40] Greybeard Thinker: that'll do it every time.
[2009/11/25 18:40] Kally Rakan: I bet someone made a copy of the "missing texture" texture quite quickly :)
[2009/11/25 18:40] Hiro Protagonist: lol
[2009/11/25 18:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: ohhnits a whole chair!
[2009/11/25 18:40] World Star: people, i go to bed
[2009/11/25 18:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: lol
[2009/11/25 18:40] World Star: Bye Bye
[2009/11/25 18:40] Adelle Fitzgerald: /ao off
[2009/11/25 18:40] Hiro Protagonist: nighters
[2009/11/25 18:40] Greybeard Thinker: ty WS
[2009/11/25 18:40] Eryn Galen: night World :)
[2009/11/25 18:40] Kally Rakan: 'night
[2009/11/25 18:40] Basic AO v1.3: AO Off
[2009/11/25 18:40] Warin Cascabel: Night, World
[2009/11/25 18:42] Kally Rakan: warin, there's somethign missing in the stand up part of that animation
[2009/11/25 18:42] Kally Rakan: you didn't sit up, grunt and scratch :)
[2009/11/25 18:42] Eryn Galen: lmao Kally
[2009/11/25 18:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: cool, Warin, ill try and get some more poses, and get this place fixored up with some poses
[2009/11/25 18:43] Eryn Galen: A victorian gentleman wouldnt do that...
[2009/11/25 18:43] Eryn Galen: who´s got poses? hhee
[2009/11/25 18:43] Warin Cascabel: I'll make a couple more poses too, Adelle.
[2009/11/25 18:43] Kally Rakan: of course not, he'd get his valet to do it :)
[2009/11/25 18:43] Dave Coyle: i have to run. i'll see you all around.
[2009/11/25 18:43] Warin Cascabel: Bye, Dave.
[2009/11/25 18:43] Eryn Galen: bye Dave :)
[2009/11/25 18:43] Kally Rakan: cya dave
[2009/11/25 18:43] Sarvana Cherry: bye
[2009/11/25 18:43] WhiteStar Magic: Night Dave
[2009/11/25 18:43] Warin Cascabel: I'm just doing a quick-and-dirty pose, Kally, not a whole lie-down and get-back-up again thing.
[2009/11/25 18:43] Dave Coyle: g;night
[2009/11/25 18:43] Samantha Fuller: 0 priorty so the head can move
[2009/11/25 18:43] Hiro Protagonist: tc Dave
[2009/11/25 18:43] Adelle Fitzgerald: cya Dave! tc!
[2009/11/25 18:44] Hiro Protagonist: are animation priorities respected now?
[2009/11/25 18:44] Warin Cascabel: Well, that's interesting. I'm down at <0,0,0> with Eryn.
[2009/11/25 18:44] Kally Rakan: yeah, I was just kidding :)
[2009/11/25 18:44] Warin Cascabel: They seem to be, Hiro.
[2009/11/25 18:44] Warin Cascabel: Kally. Ahhh. :)
[2009/11/25 18:44] Eryn Galen: oooh, cozy. lol
[2009/11/25 18:44] Kally Rakan: I should mention it to oddball though
[2009/11/25 18:44] Greybeard Thinker: we seem to be getting a lot of that lately Warin
[2009/11/25 18:44] Adelle Fitzgerald: ive always thought taht anim priorities are honoured as its a client thing
[2009/11/25 18:45] Samantha Fuller: no prority dosent mater you cant move the head when making the anmin
[2009/11/25 18:45] Greybeard Thinker: either script engine or physics not playing fair.
[2009/11/25 18:45] Kally Rakan: would probably get an gesture that burped like a foghorn too :P
[2009/11/25 18:45] Sarvana Cherry: hehe
[2009/11/25 18:45] Eryn Galen: I think she is working on that. lol
[2009/11/25 18:45] Adelle Fitzgerald: i have a neat gesture i made, the only gesture i have ever made, ever!
[2009/11/25 18:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: its an anti spam gesture that you can happily fire when people are firing off other gestures ;)
[2009/11/25 18:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: !!! NOISY  !!!
[2009/11/25 18:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: !!! WARNING  !!!
[2009/11/25 18:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: !!! SPAM  !!!
[2009/11/25 18:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: !!! ALERT  !!!
[2009/11/25 18:46] Warin Cascabel: Heh
[2009/11/25 18:46] Warin Cascabel: I mean...
[2009/11/25 18:46] Sarvana Cherry: cool
[2009/11/25 18:46] Warin Cascabel: HOOOOOOOO
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: +0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: +0+ +0+
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: +0+ WHOOOHOOOOOO +0+
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: +0+ +0+
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: +0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: Adelle
[2009/11/25 18:46] Eryn Galen: hehe
[2009/11/25 18:46] Adelle Fitzgerald: bah, except the sound isnt in my cache yet, as i cleared it yesterday i think
[2009/11/25 18:47] Adelle Fitzgerald: it really does seem to cut down the spam though hehe
[2009/11/25 18:47] Hiro Protagonist: Y'all, I just gotta tell ya something
[2009/11/25 18:47] Kally Rakan: people will just start goign around with oddballs farting attachment adelle
[2009/11/25 18:47] Hiro Protagonist: it is so freaking cool this meeting happens here
[2009/11/25 18:47] Adelle Fitzgerald: i thought if i cant beat em, ill join em, then beat em :P
[2009/11/25 18:48] Warin Cascabel: I agree, Hiro.
[2009/11/25 18:48] Warin Cascabel: This place is too nice to just sit around unused.
[2009/11/25 18:48] Hiro Protagonist: This is exactly the kind of thing I always hoped would happen in this space
[2009/11/25 18:48] Adelle Fitzgerald: its an awesome place Hiro :)
[2009/11/25 18:48] Eryn Galen: indeed, I love Bade
[2009/11/25 18:48] Adelle Fitzgerald: ohoh!
[2009/11/25 18:48] Hiro Protagonist: the work here in the bar isnt mine, but pretty much everything else here is
[2009/11/25 18:48] Adelle Fitzgerald: its ma birthday very soon, im 1! :D
[2009/11/25 18:49] Kally Rakan: there's a lot of bade admirers :)
[2009/11/25 18:49] Eryn Galen: oooh, cool Adelle
[2009/11/25 18:49] Hiro Protagonist: every once in a while I do more work on it
[2009/11/25 18:49] Kally Rakan: it's really well done
[2009/11/25 18:49] Adelle Fitzgerald: december 04!
[2009/11/25 18:49] Sarvana Cherry: will Bade be the regular meeting place?
[2009/11/25 18:49] Hiro Protagonist: I'm sure you can tell its quite unfinished
[2009/11/25 18:49] Warin Cascabel: Awesome, Adelle.
[2009/11/25 18:49] Adelle Fitzgerald: i think i might throw a party around that time
[2009/11/25 18:49] Adelle Fitzgerald: cos in Sl i never had one
[2009/11/25 18:49] Warin Cascabel: Cool
[2009/11/25 18:49] Eryn Galen: kewl Adelle
[2009/11/25 18:49] Hiro Protagonist: excellent :)
[2009/11/25 18:49] Hiro Protagonist: I actually dont know what my osgrid rezday was
[2009/11/25 18:50] Adelle Fitzgerald: look at your profile, Hiro :P
[2009/11/25 18:50] Warin Cascabel: I have to thank Adam for not putting a star in Bade, because it made me really explore the whole region looking for it.
[2009/11/25 18:50] Eryn Galen: hehe,was just about to say that
[2009/11/25 18:50] Hiro Protagonist: we had so many inventory issues back then we burned a lot of avatars
[2009/11/25 18:50] Adelle Fitzgerald: yes, me too Warin
[2009/11/25 18:50] Eryn Galen: and me
[2009/11/25 18:50] Adelle Fitzgerald: ahh gotcha
[2009/11/25 18:50] Adelle Fitzgerald: anyway, if i have a party, i need a venue
[2009/11/25 18:50] Hiro Protagonist: also, back when I started - was back before birthdates were recorded ;)
[2009/11/25 18:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: and i might just hijack Bade for it :)
[2009/11/25 18:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: hehe
[2009/11/25 18:51] Warin Cascabel: :)
[2009/11/25 18:51] Hiro Protagonist: oh nice
[2009/11/25 18:51] Sarvana Cherry: a"Everybody's Birthday " Party...
[2009/11/25 18:51] Hiro Protagonist: wow that comment came in WAY late
[2009/11/25 18:51] Warin Cascabel: heh
[2009/11/25 18:51] Kally Rakan whispers: going to take over one of the other floors for mad partying? :)
[2009/11/25 18:51] Adelle Fitzgerald: this floor is perfect
[2009/11/25 18:52] Hiro Protagonist: there's actually a dance floor at the other end of the floor
[2009/11/25 18:52] Adelle Fitzgerald: theres a dance floor right behind that wall over there
[2009/11/25 18:52] Sarvana Cherry: nice
[2009/11/25 18:52] Kally Rakan: just realised there's 19 floors in this place
[2009/11/25 18:52] Warin Cascabel: Yep.
[2009/11/25 18:52] Sarvana Cherry: wooot
[2009/11/25 18:52] Eryn Galen: yeah, its huge
[2009/11/25 18:52] Hiro Protagonist: yep :)
[2009/11/25 18:52] Adelle Fitzgerald: and!
[2009/11/25 18:52] Adelle Fitzgerald: the 4th is a friday!
[2009/11/25 18:52] Warin Cascabel: Perfect timing.
[2009/11/25 18:52] Eryn Galen: hehe, indeed
[2009/11/25 18:53] Adelle Fitzgerald: but, i dont wanna ruin Doro and Jay's night, so i will prolly do the 5th
[2009/11/25 18:53] Eryn Galen: you might want to ask them though Adelle
[2009/11/25 18:53] Eryn Galen: last friday they couldnt do it for technical problems
[2009/11/25 18:53] Adelle Fitzgerald: ill let yous all know in the next few days though, keep an eye on the wire
[2009/11/25 18:53] Warin Cascabel: OK
[2009/11/25 18:53] Eryn Galen: cool
[2009/11/25 18:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: righty, i need my pit
[2009/11/25 18:54] Warin Cascabel: The words look like English... but I completely fail to comprehend. Is that rhyming slang or something?
[2009/11/25 18:54] Kally Rakan: lol
[2009/11/25 18:54] Eryn Galen: lol
[2009/11/25 18:54] Kally Rakan: two countries seperated by a common language :)
[2009/11/25 18:54] Hiro Protagonist lowers a rope down the wabbit hole to Warin
[2009/11/25 18:54] Adelle Fitzgerald: so i bid you all a good night/evening and ill catch up with yas later!
[2009/11/25 18:55] Warin Cascabel: Night, Adelle.
[2009/11/25 18:55] Warin Cascabel: Indeed, Kall.
[2009/11/25 18:55] Warin Cascabel: Kally, even
[2009/11/25 18:55] Kally Rakan: 'night adelle :)
[2009/11/25 18:55] Eryn Galen: night Adelle :)
[2009/11/25 18:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: night all!
[2009/11/25 18:55] Hiro Protagonist: Nighters Adelle
[2009/11/25 18:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: oh
[2009/11/25 18:55] Adelle Fitzgerald: before i go, i'd better grab this chat log
[2009/11/25 18:55] Sarvana Cherry: good night Adellle... thanks again for helping my group members